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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg162737#msg162737
« Reply #240 on: September 22, 2010, 02:22:13 am »

While Jmdt is level 7. This deck is level 8

200 games, 195 wins, 5 losses. 97.5% Win Rate.

144 Elemental Mastery's yields a 73.85% EM Rate. (We're rounding this to 74%...)

Average Turns to Win: 5.9333 "Any deck in the 6 or less ttw range is stupid fast" ~ Jmdt

Win Count:

  3: Sadly, none, although it is possible. I had 2 with a different variation (luck...)
  4: 26 -- That's ~1/8 games!
  5: 63 -- That's Almost 1/3!
  6: 54
  7: 24
>7: 28 (Longest was 11)

 This deck is just amazing to use. I would easily recommend this over Jmdt's Ultimate Speed EM Deck because, well, this deck is simply more Ultimate :P :P :P. While not for use by casual grinders, this deck takes a little thinking and strategy, more so than you would believe. Those numbers were optimized by me picking between the following options: Win now because I can't get an EM, or stall 1 turn (harder than you might think) and get the EM one turn later. If you're one of those who wants to grind score while being a lazy *bleep* couch potato watching TeleVision, Stick with USEM. But for those who seek a little variety and entertainment, DEMA is for you!
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg163091#msg163091
« Reply #241 on: September 22, 2010, 07:43:57 pm »
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Out of 200 duels, the following stats have been calculated:

Average Time Spent:  108.015 Sec./Game
Average Time Spent Per Turn:  14.08279009 Sec./Turn
Clicks Per Game:  15.955
Clicks Per Turn:  2.080182529
Score Per Minute:  16.13664769
Electrum Per Minute:  20.95542286

Wins:  197
Losses:  3
EM Victories:  133
EM Percentage:  66.5%

Average ttw:  7.670
ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   20
ttw 6:   39
ttw 7:   45
ttw 8:   45
ttw 9:   24
ttw 10:   10
ttw 11:   7
ttw 12:   6
ttw 13:   2
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   1
ttw 16:   0 (Longest being a 19 turn loss...sad way to end a long battle)
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg163606#msg163606
« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2010, 07:53:24 pm »
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg163608#msg163608
« Reply #243 on: September 23, 2010, 07:58:57 pm »
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Looks pretty fun, I think I'll test this.  Do you think pendulums would improve the launch?

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg163885#msg163885
« Reply #244 on: September 24, 2010, 01:42:35 am »
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Looks pretty fun, I think I'll test this.  Do you think pendulums would improve the launch?
They might but really they arent needed because you really only need the stone pillars. I keep the 3 fire pillars in there in case of bad draws.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg164289#msg164289
« Reply #245 on: September 24, 2010, 08:04:01 pm »
Here is an air based speed deck that I think could do ok.  In 20 test games it had a ttw of 6.1.  If you have time to test it, I would be interested to see how it turns out.  I don't have all the upped cards to test it  myself but I am working toward it.  If you don't get to it before I get the cards, I will test it myself.  Thank you for all the testing that you have done and are continuing to do.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg164772#msg164772
« Reply #246 on: September 25, 2010, 06:57:16 pm »
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Out of 200 duels, the following stats have been calculated:

Average Time Spent:  75.950 Sec./Game
Average Time Spent Per Turn:  9.889322917 Sec./Turn
Clicks Per Game:  15.775
Clicks Per Turn: 2.054036458
Score Per Minute:  22.79526004
Electrum Per Minute:  25.48123766

Wins:  197
Losses:  3
EM Victories:  136
EM Percentage:  68.0%

Average ttw:  7.680
ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   5
ttw 5:   25
ttw 6:   45
ttw 7:   40
ttw 8:   21
ttw 9:   22
ttw 10:   20
ttw 11:   6
ttw 12:   6
ttw 13:   6
ttw 14:   2
ttw 15:   1
ttw 16:   1
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg164866#msg164866
« Reply #247 on: September 25, 2010, 10:11:20 pm »
This topic is gaining in quickly this month ._.  *remembers when it was just posted*  :))

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg166605#msg166605
« Reply #248 on: September 28, 2010, 07:07:16 pm »
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For 200 games:
avg. Sec/Game:  60.32
Sec/Turn:  10.57
Clicks/Game:  15.71
Clicks/Turn:  2.75
Score/Min:  19.42
Electrum/Min:  19.99

Time overall (min.):  201.07
Wins:  198
EMs:  22
Score accumulated:  3905
Electrum accumulated:  4020
EM rate:  11%
Avg ttw:  5.71

ttw Details:

ttw 3:    0
ttw 4:    43
ttw 5:    66
ttw 6:    42
ttw 7:    22
ttw 8:    15
ttw 9:    8
ttw 10:    3
ttw 11:    1
ttw 12:    0
ttw 13:    0
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg166608#msg166608
« Reply #249 on: September 28, 2010, 07:15:38 pm »
Here is an air based speed deck that I think could do ok.  In 20 test games it had a ttw of 6.1.  If you have time to test it, I would be interested to see how it turns out.  I don't have all the upped cards to test it  myself but I am working toward it.  If you don't get to it before I get the cards, I will test it myself.  Thank you for all the testing that you have done and are continuing to do.

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This looks interesting. Ads to list.

How dependable is it?

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg166620#msg166620
« Reply #250 on: September 28, 2010, 07:34:15 pm »
Here is an air based speed deck that I think could do ok.  In 20 test games it had a ttw of 6.1.  If you have time to test it, I would be interested to see how it turns out.  I don't have all the upped cards to test it  myself but I am working toward it.  If you don't get to it before I get the cards, I will test it myself.  Thank you for all the testing that you have done and are continuing to do.

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This looks interesting. Ads to list.

How dependable is it?
It is fairly dependable.  In some trainer testing, it did have some problems with not drawing a wyrm in the first few turns, but if needed you can use chaos powers on damselflies to still pull off a win in the 7-9 turn range.  I did 20 test games in the trainer and had no losses, two 4 turn wins(quickest), and one 9 turn win(longest).

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg167681#msg167681
« Reply #251 on: September 30, 2010, 02:13:23 am »
I just keep forgetting to post this, but the ultimate speed rush EM Life deck actually is not perfect -- there is a very simple improvement that helps get EM against the earth-based AI3 once in a while.

You simply replace 5 of the Emerald Towers with 5 Life Pendulums (upgraded of course). Since your mark is Life, they are identical in use; but spreading your pillars into two piles makes the frequently-used Earthquake less deadly -- and it might be the difference between an EM victory or not since no pillars = big delays.

 

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