[OUTDATED] Turns to win study

[Mastermind79]

Requesting a deeper TTW study by someone who's not me for this deck:
Golem and Graboid, Best of Friends. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15804.0.html)

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55u 590 590 590 590 5c1 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5i7 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5og 61q
56 games gave me preliminary TTW of 6.73. Two losses.

Thanks!

Sorry to bump, but I'd be extremely grateful if an outside source got a definite TTW for this deck. A reputable source is better than the creator's word, right?

[lukce]

Ok now I did another testing on my Immo/Nova rush. It gave me great results ttw 5.500
100 games played: 0 losts, 11 EMs

ttw 4: 14
ttw 5: 35
ttw 6: 43     
ttw 7: 4
ttw 8: 3
ttw 9: 1

ttw=5.500

Deck:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 713 77g 77g 7ae 7ae 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7jr 7n0 7tb 809 809 809 809 809

Well considering I have 2 immonova type builds in the study and both are faster I must decline.  Seeing how DEMA is faster with 3 heals, this deck likely needs a tweak if you are going for pure speed.  If you find a build faster and Colours Ablaze then I will definately add it the the study.

So yeah Jmdt this would be 2nd place

[willng3]

And now...for something completely different.

Phoenixplosion! Quite Literally! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13526.0.html)

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7dm 7dm 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 808 808 808 808 809 809 80i 80i 80i 80i
Games (AI3):   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   84.360
Sec/Turn:   11.8649789
Clicks/Game:   26.570
Clicks/Turn:   3.736990155
Score/Min:   10.82503556
Electrum/Min:   10.87837838
   
Time overall (min.):   281.200
Wins:   186
Ems:   3
Losses:   14
Score:   3044
Electrum:   3059
Avg ttw:   6.963   

ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   33
ttw 6:   59
ttw 7:   43
ttw 8:   19
ttw 9:   13
ttw 10:   13
ttw 11:   6
ttw 12:   2
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

[jmdt]

And now...for something completely different.

Phoenixplosion! Quite Literally! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13526.0.html)

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7dm 7dm 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 808 808 808 808 809 809 80i 80i 80i 80i
Games (AI3):   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   84.360
Sec/Turn:   11.8649789
Clicks/Game:   26.570
Clicks/Turn:   3.736990155
Score/Min:   10.82503556
Electrum/Min:   10.87837838
   
Time overall (min.):   281.200
Wins:   186
Ems:   3
Losses:   14
Score:   3044
Electrum:   3059
Avg ttw:   6.963   

ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   33
ttw 6:   59
ttw 7:   43
ttw 8:   19
ttw 9:   13
ttw 10:   13
ttw 11:   6
ttw 12:   2
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

hmmmm......so fractix really is that slow, lol

[willng3]

And now...for something completely different.

Phoenixplosion! Quite Literally! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13526.0.html)

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7dm 7dm 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 808 808 808 808 809 809 80i 80i 80i 80i
Games (AI3):   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   84.360
Sec/Turn:   11.8649789
Clicks/Game:   26.570
Clicks/Turn:   3.736990155
Score/Min:   10.82503556
Electrum/Min:   10.87837838
   
Time overall (min.):   281.200
Wins:   186
Ems:   3
Losses:   14
Score:   3044
Electrum:   3059
Avg ttw:   6.963   

ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   33
ttw 6:   59
ttw 7:   43
ttw 8:   19
ttw 9:   13
ttw 10:   13
ttw 11:   6
ttw 12:   2
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

hmmmm......so fractix really is that slow, lol

It just needs to be tweaked a bit; if this had been nothing but Pends it would have fared much better; there were numerous occasions where I received nothing but Towers and Cremations and thus couldn't set off the deck.  If this is changed I wouldn't be surprised if the deck was at least a full turn faster.

[~Napalm]

Thx will! I'll get back to you with a faster, more consitent deck. This was, afterall, my first, untweaked version. I have yet to rough it up a bit except when I use only 2 Towers for FG Slaying

+ Karma

Also, you're suggesting it could be 5.9? that really WOULD be something O_o

[WakSkylicker]

An attempt at beating the Shrieker rush:

Shrieker Speed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17221.msg234200.html)

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6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 747 747 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 7ae 7ae 7ds 7ds 7gm 7jv 7jv 7tb 7tb 80g
Could you please help me test this? I think there should be more decks faster than Shrieker Rush 

[willng3]

Okay, updating Phoenixplosion based on "inadequate" stats previously obtained

Phoenixplosion!  Quite Literally!:  Tweaked to Max Speed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13526.msg234891#msg234891)

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7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 809 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i
Games (AI3):   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   75.165
Sec/Turn:   11.64446166
Clicks/Game:   24.955
Clicks/Turn:   3.865995352
Score/Min:   0
Electrum/Min:   0
   
Time overall (min.):   250.550
Wins:   192
Ems:   8
Losses:   8
Score:   0
Electrum:   0
Avg ttw:   6.349
   
ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   45
ttw 6:   72
ttw 7:   48
ttw 8:   18
ttw 9:   8
ttw 10:   1
ttw 11:   0
ttw 12:   0
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0
I traded the off chance of receiving insanely fast wins for more consistency and it paid off; this deck is a major improvement over the original Fractix if I may say so myself.

Also, my Flash Player crashed thrice while recording stats which is why I do not have estimates for electrum/score at this time (all three instances occurred after I had already gathered 100 games).  It's faster than the previous version, so you know it's going to be more than that.

[RavingRabbid]

You should open a new topic for 1.26 ttw.

[Falcon4415]

You should open a new topic for 1.26 ttw.

What he said. New AI3s do like to stall a lot, I am expecting a big average increase in ttw (as an example, I'm getting the feeling that USEM is at around 7.5-8.5 ttw now).

[suxerz]

I agree; a new ttw study is needed for 1.26. It is also possible that some decks here are not reliable for the new AI3. However, there might be a possibility some of the AI decks will be changed later. So, the new ttw study might not be needed now, but soon enough. On that note: I'm using a variation of DEMA and I think it's at around 5-7 ttw but really losing the EM capability.

[lukce]

^ As they said. And jmdt, I kindly ask, can I make the new ttw study for 1.26  ?

I swear I will update decks every day, I will test decks, I will work hard and stuff. I would really appreciate if I could make that topic.