no more fgs ffor now

[twinsbuster]

If anything, FG's need to be remade.  Paradox has been PM'ing me lately expressing his concerns over losing to every deck humanity has ever made.

a simple rework:
replace mirror shield with Hope, add 2 Light Nymphs

Nah, Nymphs can be Lobotomized before they get to use their ability. What Paradox really wants is Luciferase (replace some RoLs?). If Hope was added too that could get insanely hard.

No Lucifer or it will be too hard. White nymph with Hope is balance enough to buff Paradox a bit.

For Neptune, add some earth tower and a few Protect Artifact will make it tough. Let's think of Protected Permaforst Shield and pillar destruction ability.

[zse]

If anything, FG's need to be remade.  Paradox has been PM'ing me lately expressing his concerns over losing to every deck humanity has ever made.

a simple rework:
replace mirror shield with Hope, add 2 Light Nymphs

Nah, Nymphs can be Lobotomized before they get to use their ability. What Paradox really wants is Luciferase (replace some RoLs?). If Hope was added too that could get insanely hard.

No Lucifer or it will be too hard. White nymph with Hope is balance enough to buff Paradox a bit.

For Neptune, add some earth tower and a few Protect Artifact will make it tough. Let's think of Protected Permaforst Shield and pillar destruction ability.

With Luciferase too hard? TOO HARD??? They are the closest thing to GOD in this game, after The Almighty Z of course . FGs aren't supposed to be "easy". I still think that Light Nymph will be causing next to none problems to any of the top Anti-FG decks. L.N. can be easily dealt with Lobotomize, Eternity, Otyugh, Fallen Druid, etc.

Protected Permaforst Shield and pillar destruction ability? Meh, Hope-RoL wont be affected at all by that, and t'll still easily beat down Neptune. Couple of Lightning Storm would be handy for Neptune on that match-up though...

[twinsbuster]

With Luciferase too hard? TOO HARD??? They are the closest thing to GOD in this game, after The Almighty Z of course . FGs aren't supposed to be "easy". I still think that Light Nymph will be causing next to none problems to any of the top Anti-FG decks. L.N. can be easily dealt with Lobotomize, Eternity, Otyugh, Fallen Druid, etc.

Protected Permaforst Shield and pillar destruction ability? Meh, Hope-RoL wont be affected at all by that, and t'll still easily beat down Neptune. Couple of Lightning Storm would be handy for Neptune on that match-up though...

So in your view all the Firefly Queen, Pharaoh, Fallen Elf of FGs are useless since you can always play your CC on them.
It's because FGs have these things, so we put in Lobotomize, Eternity, Otyugh, Fallen Druid, etc. to anti FGs, so please don't get an inverted train of thought.

Because RoL Hope can beat it so it's easy? You should try more anti-FG decks.

[zse]

With Luciferase too hard? TOO HARD??? They are the closest thing to GOD in this game, after The Almighty Z of course . FGs aren't supposed to be "easy". I still think that Light Nymph will be causing next to none problems to any of the top Anti-FG decks. L.N. can be easily dealt with Lobotomize, Eternity, Otyugh, Fallen Druid, etc.

Protected Permaforst Shield and pillar destruction ability? Meh, Hope-RoL wont be affected at all by that, and t'll still easily beat down Neptune. Couple of Lightning Storm would be handy for Neptune on that match-up though...

So in your view all the Firefly Queen, Pharaoh, Fallen Elf of FGs are useless since you can always play your CC on them.
It's because FGs have these things, so we put in Lobotomize, Eternity, Otyugh, Fallen Druid, etc. to anti FGs, so please don't get an inverted train of thought.

Because RoL Hope can beat it so it's easy? You should try more anti-FG decks.

Please don't try to twist my words. What I meant was that in comparison Light Nymph vs. Luciferase, the former has so much less power that it's "almost useless" compared to the other. At least that's the way I see it, and you have every right to disagree with me.

Why should I try more anti-FG decks? Do you know what decks I've tried? Again I meant something else than what you seem to think.
While that pillar control can cause trouble to some decks, it doesn't hurt all. So better way to give Neptune the needed boost would give it both: the power to destroy pillards AND some Lighning Storms to take out small critters (Fractalled RoLs etc.) that are in positions 1-7 and aren't thus affected by Inundation.

[Krahhl]

We design anti-FG decks to take down FGs. We don't design FGs to be harder to win against with anti-FG decks.

I'm not quoting/twisting anyone's words and arguing against them, but just putting it out there to keep in mind.

[sbluen]

If anything, FG's need to be remade.  Paradox has been PM'ing me lately expressing his concerns over losing to every deck humanity has ever made.

On that note, Incarnate needs to have -2 vampires and +4 nightmares so that his deck will provide an interesting challenge against decks that rely on excess drawing or fractals.

[Krahhl]

No, Incarnate doesn't need anything. He can be improved, but some FGs should be on the easier side too.

Also, nightmares don't fit into his strategy at all, and they effectively are fractals if the player has quanta for the cards.