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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg519938#msg519938
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2012, 04:50:23 am »
I'm also updating the false god articles to reflect the change of FG decks used. I don't know much about poison stalls such as PD SoSac, so can someone please fill that in?
(I think each article should have some strategies for 4 types: rainbow control (Flay 'em, CCYB mod), OTK (Limitless, Instosis), RoL/Hope, and Poison stall (SPlat, PD SoSac))
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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg519947#msg519947
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2012, 05:17:22 am »
(I think each article should have some strategies for 4 types: rainbow control (Flay 'em, CCYB mod), OTK (Limitless, Instosis), RoL/Hope, and Poison stall (SPlat, PD SoSac))

This. As long as the differences between decks in each category are noted.



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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg520303#msg520303
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2012, 10:30:59 pm »
  • Update element pages and card articles to use the new template.

I started with :earth cards, please check the result. If you like it I may do the rest, too.
Furthermore, I fixed some price level calculations and rarity-auto detection, and I removed the necessity of <noinclude> tags in data pages.

  • For consistency, completeness and so that the cards don't stand out awkwardly, I prefer having the upgraded version there. The Wiki page itself would naturally mention that the upgraded version cannot be obtained.

Hmm... Now I did as you prefer that but I think displayed info of upgraded card is more awkward this way: both rarity and buy/sell info is a nonsense. I could set price level 0 also for the upped card to display "In-game card only" instead of a sell price; however, this is actually an "Out-of-game card".  ::)

I inserted a comment in the row of Shard Golem in Earth page containing the basic-only version. It doesn't seem awkward to me - you did a good job with "No Upgrade" display mode - where else could we use that if not here??  :P  So I still prefer hiding the upgraded version in the list and mentioning it only in the article as an interesting fact.

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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg520398#msg520398
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2012, 03:11:26 am »
  • Update element pages and card articles to use the new template.

I started with :earth cards, please check the result. If you like it I may do the rest, too.
Furthermore, I fixed some price level calculations and rarity-auto detection, and I removed the necessity of <noinclude> tags in data pages.
Looks good from what I can see.

  • For consistency, completeness and so that the cards don't stand out awkwardly, I prefer having the upgraded version there. The Wiki page itself would naturally mention that the upgraded version cannot be obtained.

Hmm... Now I did as you prefer that but I think displayed info of upgraded card is more awkward this way: both rarity and buy/sell info is a nonsense. I could set price level 0 also for the upped card to display "In-game card only" instead of a sell price; however, this is actually an "Out-of-game card".  ::)
I set price level to -1, which displays: 'Only appears in bugs'.

I inserted a comment in the row of Shard Golem in Earth page containing the basic-only version. It doesn't seem awkward to me - you did a good job with "No Upgrade" display mode - where else could we use that if not here??  :P  So I still prefer hiding the upgraded version in the list and mentioning it only in the article as an interesting fact.
And where else could be use that lovely upgraded Shard Golem image if not there? :P
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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg521898#msg521898
« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2012, 03:31:17 pm »
Skills are rendered as links by the new template; however, there are skills like "earth" or "unstable gas" that have conflicting name with articles. To resolve this I resurrected "Active skill" and "Passive Skill" pages and the template now links the skills on these pages.

Meanwhile I realized that all of the skill pages are already exist. Firstly I didn't noticed this because Xeno's resolve for conflicts were red links on Others page (dagger, hammer). Most of these pages are single-sentence chunk articles so skills seem really scattered to me this way.

What should be strategy now? Is it okay to have a common summarizing page for skills where you can see them together? I created a Wikipedia-like {{Main|main article}} template to reference the more detailed article where it is not a chunk (e.g. airborne skill is a well-written one).

Or should I undo the template to reference the separated single-sentence articles?

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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg521900#msg521900
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2012, 03:41:42 pm »
We use the same solution to this as Wikipedia does: naming the skill article "Earth (ability)". It was resolved in the data pages by adding * to the end of the skill name (i.e., Earth*). I didn't realize that it wasn't working.

If one wants to see skills together they can still go to one of the category pages. I'm not sure whether the Active skills/Passive skills pages are a good idea ... though if we were to use them, we'd naturally need to create a bunch of redirects as well.
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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg522109#msg522109
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2012, 03:43:30 am »
Can we has card code for each card? It seems like it'd be nice.

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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg522575#msg522575
« Reply #55 on: July 16, 2012, 06:05:27 pm »
Can we has card code for each card? It seems like it'd be nice.

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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg522578#msg522578
« Reply #56 on: July 16, 2012, 06:26:17 pm »
Xeno, what about improving element icons in wiki so they would work as links?

Now that the templates don't have Skill Element parameter I can solve it only for card cost. See here what I'm talking about: The icon in cost now works as a link and has a mouse hover box, while in description there are just simple images (because those images are rendered by ":​light" function).

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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg522624#msg522624
« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2012, 09:29:56 pm »
Xeno, what about improving element icons in wiki so they would work as links?

Now that the templates don't have Skill Element parameter I can solve it only for card cost. See here what I'm talking about: The icon in cost now works as a link and has a mouse hover box, while in description there are just simple images (because those images are rendered by ":​light" function).
It seems kind of pointless, seeing as there's an element link right above the icon anyway. Nice for future reference though.
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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg522827#msg522827
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2012, 05:17:20 pm »
It seems kind of pointless, seeing as there's an element link right above the icon anyway. Nice for future reference though.

Errr...  ::) Ok, bad example. This one is a better one: card and skill elements are different. So is it pointless to turn :life icon a link here? At least a mouse hover box would be helpful, like here in the forum. A beginner might not recognize all of the icons.

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Re: Building the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40797.msg523440#msg523440
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2012, 12:41:31 am »
Alright I can't figure out how to fix this myself since I apparently can't edit this, so...could someone change the bit where the wiki currently says Adrenaline is a Creature, not a Spell?
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