Strategy: Round 1

[Skydaemon]

Alright, here's the strategy thread if we don't want to clutter the deckbuilding one. Also, I'll probably go through tonight and post some of their old decks from previous wars by elements which we might see again.

Fights:
Terroking vs. Valuka :
Demagog vs. vinvick3714 :
$$$man vs. xKelevra :
Legit vs. Nume :
Skydaemon vs. smiley56 :
Coinich vs. Miniwally :
Korugar vs. SnoWeb :
Dreggs vs. Gl1tch : *** lieutenant fight
TimerClock14 vs. jmdt : *** lieutenant fight

lieutenants:
nilsieboy
dragoon
implosion
Gl1tch
jumbalumba
jmdt
Amilir
Malduk
Koraoitou
quantumT
dragoon1140


Details:

valuka - another tough fight, expect a mean deck.  reverse time/eternity a threat, so don't count on deck outs or being able to field unprotected creatures. 

rt should work well against whatever time plays too though, and permanent destruction is a good choice too (negates lots of their benefits including sundial stalls).  I might suggest something with permanent destruction, earthquakes and/or reverse time along.  Not a deck out though.

vinvick3714 - this looks like one of water's hardest fights of the round, from a new forum poster, probably anticipating a loss.  Either they'll hand him the best deck, or write him off and use a hail mary.

Water and death combo very well together, offhand I'd keep an eye out for a poison/freeze stall deck.  Ice shield, chrysoaras.  arctic squid, ice bolts.  Poison isn't that hot against high hp earth creatures, it works mainly on shriekers.  Freeze is probably their best shot, or something they import from other elements.  Might want to sneak in a purify to our deck if possible.

You could probably with this with a protected titanium shield, a purify or two, and something that can destroy their shields.  Being dema, he gets a few upped cards to make this work.

In terms of new cards they could also go with a nymph deck using the nymph tears, so anything there could show up.  I've seen essence play with a full nymph tear deck a week or so ago.  It was basically a deck with 3 water pillars, and 21 quantum pillars. 

A deck with earthquakes isn't a bad idea either.

xKelevra - Fairly hard fight for entropy, but they're fighting a lot of masters this round.

For entropy in general, bet on seeing a discord, can get some protection from rainbow type decks, or decks with cards that have low costs per card.  High chance of seeing butterfly effects - counterable with enchant armor.  Dissipation shields very likely.  lycanthropes are very fast to get on field.

jmdt - Good with rush decks, very strong deck builder, he could easily pull out a deck specific to whatever he thinks we'll play, including a fire bolt deck if he thinks he can outspeed us.  The question is, what does he think we'll play.  Most fire decks bring deflags to mess up shields and weapons.  Best bet might be something unexpected, and it better be fast.  If you let him work uninterrupted, expect to be killed by round 10 or sooner.

He knows he's playing our rookie, he's their lieutenant with 3 upped cards, he might just go for a straight rush or firebolt kill without the frills.  They've got to figure on winning here.

Gl1tch - life rushes can be mitigated a lot by a titanium shield, then again they'll know that too.  Thorn carapaces are one of the few shields that can quickly wipe out a lot of our high hp creatures.  Earth isn't so tough dmg output wise, and life has a lot of easy access to healing.  They may be able to heal through our attack if they choose to try and slap up a protected thorn carapace.

Lately there's a new tactic of flying, momentumed, adrenalined druid staves to be aware of, 3 of them hit for 36 dmg, bypass shields, and heal for 60 a round.

And in the updated lists he's the life lieutenant, so 3 upped cards.

SnoWeb - Good player, entropy's second fight vs earth for the round.  A bit lower down on their threat list just because they face a bunch of hard fights.  This is probably their 7th or 8th hardest fight of the round.  Korugar is new to forum, so they might just go for a straightforward rush or something.

Again, bet on seeing a discord, can get some protection from rainbow type decks, or decks with cards that have low costs per card.  Dissipation shields very likely.  lycanthropes are very fast to get on field.  Butterfly's are out there too, but they might be out of them by this point in the round.

The later this fight happens, the more likely they won't have butterfly's.

Miniwally - Water and death combo very well together, offhand I'd keep an eye out for a poison/freeze stall deck.  Ice shield, chrysoaras.  arctic squid, ice bolts.  Poison isn't that hot against high hp earth creatures, it works mainly on shriekers.  Freeze is probably their best shot, or something they import from other elements.  Might want to sneak in a purify to our deck if possible.

In terms of new cards they could also go with a nymph deck using the nymph tears, so anything there could show up.  I've seen essence play with a full nymph tear deck a week or so ago.  It was basically a deck with 3 water pillars, and 21 quantum pillars. 

A deck with earthquakes isn't a bad idea either.

Nume - Death actually has an incredibly hard round, this is probably the 5th or 6th hardest fight for them this round.  That said, should be a good fight.  They could well pull out an old favorite and hope to kill you with poison/arsenic.

I need to find out who the lieutenants are, but if that arsenic isn't upped, it can be totally blocked by a titanium shield, as can the eclipsed scorps they might bring.

Again, purify isn't a bad idea if it's workable.  They might go with bone wall, or pull a shield from another element.  Dusk shield might work if they take darkness pillars for eclipse.

smily56 - apparently gravity just picked this guy up as a replacement, nevertheless, gravity has a lot of choices, - blackholes and chimeras for new cards, and lots of old choices.  One way or another, they'll probably have momentum to bypass shields.  Otyughs are a threat for creature control, although they might need armor/momentum or something to start them off.  They could also use pulvy's against us fairly easily.  They could easily combo earth and grav right back at us.


Here's the scheduled fights for the 6 elements we face, listed in my perceived order of difficulty for them:

- at least 4 really big fights.
kevkev60614 - girlsgeneration *** vs gravity general
catalyzeme - dragoon1140 *** vs aether lieutenant
hyroen - hrmmm
lava golem - kuroaitou *** vs darkness lieutenant
stinnger -ravingrabbid
acsabi44 - boingo
majofa - tomatoman
brettbstock - the dictator
jmdt - timerclock14

- at least 3 really big fights maybe as much as 6
valuka - terroking   *** vs our general
Xinef - 10 men
Belthazar666 - nilsieboy *** vs water lieutenant
smokefree - kobisjeruk
senabmi - thraexis11
edunavas - xuru
dragoon - chum3
brion - truddy02
immolation - 9270984

- 2-4 sizable fights, we're probably 2 of their main concerns, note that water faces 2 earth, 2 aether, and 2 fire opponents this round
vinvick3714 - demagog *** vs our lieutenant
miniwally - coinich
bluesky - mrpaper
unit74596 - daxx
ravingrabbid - stinnger
wavedash - ryan666
the dictator - brettbstock
nilsieboy - belthazara666
essence - gocubbies1212

- they got screwed with about 6 really tough fights
sir valimont - killsdazombies *** vs life general
kurohami - pervepic *** vs air general
10 men - xinef *** vs time general
nyma - willng3
xKelevra - $$$man
amilir - corrum
vagman13 - dogg
SnoWeb - korugar
zeru - salamence_747

- 4 very hard fights
girlsgeneration - kevkev60614 *** vs fire general
indrejue - xdude *** vs light general
memorystick - quantumT *** vs air lieutenant
cebra - plastiqe
napalm grenade - suxerz
smiley56 - skydaemon
phantomfox - ratchetspyro
918273645 - home_wreckaz
jumbalumba - shantu

- 4 very hard fights, maybe as much as 6 or 7
shantu - jumbalumba *** vs gravity lieutenant
smuglapse - kael hate *** vs darkness general
malduk - 3dhouseofbeef
corrum - amilir *** vs entropy lieutenant
mrblonde - fenix2011
xuru - edunavas
nume - legit
mastermind79 - toimu13
home_wreckaz - 918273645

[TimerClock14]

jmdt has reason to believe that i'm not just some noob tho. he might make a direct rush deck, but put a few surprises in it as well. I do believe that my voodoo-reflector deck will do the job, considering that it was developed to counter decks with naturally high attack power. And then there's that lingering FP threat.

Also, I'm going to keep a sharp eye out for the kevkev-GG fight and try to catch it on spectator. I'm gonna go buy some snacks now.

[Legit]

I'm pretty sure death (my opponent) will go with a rush deck, either poison rush or a creature rush like mummies. The death/darkness duo, as you pointed out, seems pretty deadly as well. I think I should take one or two titanium shields.

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I think I'll take some sort of variation of this deck.

[Demagog]

Legit, try to post what decks you want to take in the deck building topic. You're probably going to have to fight $$$man for that deck; we only have one.

Sky, do you think you could create an "intel" topic on each of the other elements? I'd like the topics to contain:

Who they've played
Who they won against + the deck they beat + if they got to salvage cards or not and how many they got to salvage
What decks they lost with and in which round
All the decks they've previously used
And anything else we can think of that would be useful.

[Skydaemon]

Legit, try to post what decks you want to take in the deck building topic. You're probably going to have to fight $$$man for that deck; we only have one.

Sky, do you think you could create an "intel" topic on each of the other elements? I'd like the topics to contain:

Who they've played
Who they won against + the deck they beat + if they got to salvage cards or not and how many they got to salvage
What decks they lost with and in which round
All the decks they've previously used
And anything else we can think of that would be useful.

Sure thing, although much of that info won't be available until after the first round.

[Demagog]

I know, you'll just edit the topics when needed. I just wanted to ask you to do it.

[TimerClock14]

i'll help out too with my crazy spectator-stalking skillz

[Skydaemon]

For the dreggs vs Gl1tch fight, might be useful to read this thread from war 1 archives.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7744.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7744.0.html)

I wouldn't be surprised if Gl1tch showed up ready to face this deck.

Also in war 1, Gl1tch used these decks:

Rush fractal frog deck (5 fractals in 30 card deck and only 5 pillars?)
vs time round 1

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vs time again round 2

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[Skydaemon]

Old archives from war 1 of earth vs time for terro's fight.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7680.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7623.0.html

[Demagog]

Gl1tch is probably aching for the chance to use this deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8115.0.html

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[Skydaemon]

For timerclock - last war jmdt used these 3 decks when he played for team gravity.

In all 3 cases he used the alternative mark (not his main element), and creature based main attack from his main element.

chargers, blackholes with purify and freeze
vs death round 1

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vs aether round 2

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vs aether

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[Skydaemon]

For Coinich vs Miniwally

In war 1, he played as master of darkness, that's why his logo is half darkness still.

War 1, while playing for darkness Miniwally used:

Complicated devourer, parasite, black dragon, otyugh deck
vs fire round 1

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vs entropy round 4

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