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Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337478#msg337478
« on: May 20, 2011, 03:41:53 pm »
:earth Avenger   vs   :aether EngPhys
:fire Legit   vs   :earth Acsabi44
:earth TimerClock14   vs   :water aznkid66
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Thanks to our bombastic last round, we are 3rd currently!  :D
also, we are back to 6 players.
We face tough opponents this round.
And the event card confuses me. We just build  our usual decks, then add 6 random cards, and remove them before the duels, or what?
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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337520#msg337520
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 04:55:49 pm »
And the event card confuses me. We just build  our usual decks, then add 6 random cards, and remove them before the duels, or what?
The confusing part actually starts when you try and use the event efficiently!
As an example, take this as your deck:
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 55m 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 562 562 562 562 562As it is, this deck doesn't work, so you will drop the acceleration and the Armagio in the first round. Your deck might lose against fast Sanctuary or a sanc stall, or something like this. So if you face that, you will switch the BH's for accels and beat the crap out of that stall.
// It's just an example, didn't think it through at all :P

Edit: another, more earthy example:
You can build this war-legal deck: (take a look at the 50% rule)
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4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 55q 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 595 5aa 5aa 5c1 5f6 5if 5lm 5on 5on 61qBy just adding 6 random earth cards, and remove them when you fight your opponent.

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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337526#msg337526
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 05:21:45 pm »
You can build a stall deck with 46+ cards immortal with EQ and PA. 

If your opponent is a fat stall deck, you keep all the cards.
If your opponent has 30 cards and rainbow/immo user, you drop the EQ.
If your opponent has 30 cards and has no PC, you drop the PA's.

This event requires a lot of consideration!!!







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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337527#msg337527
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 05:22:44 pm »
Well I suppose we could do a midrange deck and depending on wether we face a stall or rush, remove (for example) the shields if we face a stall, or remove EQs if we face an immo-rush etc. I'll have to look at the vault to see if we can build theese 'flexible' decks.

(Adding EQs where we can, and removing them if we face an immo or novadeck sounds reasonable)
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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337566#msg337566
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 07:03:34 pm »
Wewt! Let's do this thing! Ok, so only the full deck needs to be legal, right? In that case, we can take a minimum of 9 essential earth cards in our decks, put in 6 filler, and make 36 card decks using other element cards to our advantage.

I think that makes sense...
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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337589#msg337589
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 07:35:56 pm »
Wewt! Let's do this thing! Ok, so only the full deck needs to be legal, right? In that case, we can take a minimum of 9 essential earth cards in our decks, put in 6 filler, and make 36 card decks using other element cards to our advantage.

I think that makes sense...

36 card-deck = 18 + 18! so 6 filler means we need 12 essential earthcards ^^ want to say, before you made choices and we cant build it.
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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337591#msg337591
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 07:37:25 pm »
Wewt! Let's do this thing! Ok, so only the full deck needs to be legal, right? In that case, we can take a minimum of 9 essential earth cards in our decks, put in 6 filler, and make 36 card decks using other element cards to our advantage.

I think that makes sense...

36 card-deck = 18 + 18! so 6 filler means we need 12 essential earthcards ^^ want to say, before you made choices and we cant build it.
Right, thanks for catching that. ^^;
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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337594#msg337594
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 07:40:53 pm »
Double post, sorry:

Here's the deck I'm currently testing:
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58p 58p 58p 58p 58p 58p 58s 58s 590 590 590 590 590 590 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 8ps


I enjoy the simplicity, and the quanta production is just right, could use some adjustments though.
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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337595#msg337595
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 07:43:45 pm »
thats enough quanta? cant realy believe that... but i love eq in that! ^^
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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337601#msg337601
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 07:52:04 pm »
Where do you get those 6 GotP from?
We have 0 and could salvage 4.

And QI of 14 for time quanta is not really balanced :P

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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337618#msg337618
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 08:27:21 pm »
Where do you get those 6 GotP from?
We have 0 and could salvage 4.

And QI of 14 for time quanta is not really balanced :P
Teehee, just try it out first. Imagine that those were entropy pends and there were 6 snovas in the deck. See the quanta balance now? :P

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Re: Round 7 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26548.msg337641#msg337641
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 08:56:41 pm »
I think it would be totally demolished without PA (or by devs/discord/etc), of course, if you play it against a deck that cannot damage your quanta, it is fine.

 

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