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Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg332919#msg332919
« on: May 13, 2011, 06:25:22 pm »
:earth Spielkind   vs   :water Bootsza
:death Dm1321   vs   :earth Lt. Terroking
:underworld tttt   vs   :earth Avenger
:time Lt. Jen-i   vs   :earth Acsabi44
:air The Mormegil   vs   :earth Gen. Kakerlake

I think that the event card favors us, since we have a fat deck in the oven which works very well (Immortal), and we have lots of cards besides the 150 necessary for 5 decks
(compare with time for example, who are forced to play 105 of their 108 cards, instead of 90)
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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg332940#msg332940
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 07:00:33 pm »
Let's see what our opponents have to do with the event card:

 :water: 107 spare cards
 :underworld: 37 spare cards
 :air: 30 spare cards
 :earth: 18 spare cards
 :death: 16 spare cards
 :time: 3 spare cards

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg332994#msg332994
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 08:18:48 pm »
Water should be beaten if possible. They are the strongest of our opponents.

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333055#msg333055
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 09:41:17 pm »
We can currently pretty much chose which decks we want to play this round, the discarding / salvaging leaves us with many options.

Decks we MUST play:
2x Grabowinder
1x Grabbow

Suggested decks: (At least one needed, both works as well)
1x The Immortal // note: we don't have to play this one, but if we don't, we'll either have to convert it or use only 35 card decks. Using it is more risky than ever this round.
1x Entropy Duo

Optional: (One or two, depending on suggested decks)
Poison Stall
Devourer
Fractillon // Fractal will probably be converted due to never being used
Wings
Gravity Duo (Grav shield, Pulvy, BB is an awesome combo)

My random suggestions without much looking into the Intels or if it is possible would be the following:
:water --> Grabowinder (+ PA)
:death --> Grabbow
:underworld --> Grabowinder
:time --> Poison Stall
:air --> Gravity duo
// Surplus cards: The Immortal's light cards, because it doesn't feel right to go with this one against 35+ cards decks, also this will be a surprise when we launch this one in round 7 =)

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333060#msg333060
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 09:58:29 pm »
Just some random thoughts...

Wings are fun, devs would be fun only with fractal. I guess we are not good enough to try that now.
Since devs are in a loser deck, lets get rid of them.

Also, Lt/Gen can use flying weapon. Which may come handy against air.

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333090#msg333090
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 10:40:27 pm »
Kraker I disagree about not runnug the Immortal.
Especially versus teams with a slim vault( :death :time), my guess is they will be stretching their 30 card decks to the minimum 35, maybe with useless cards (or atleast this is my prediction), so a 40 card immortal is pure win.
Of course I can be wrong, that's why we need the other's thoughts.
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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333109#msg333109
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 11:17:55 pm »
Kraker I disagree about not runnug the Immortal.
Especially versus teams with a slim vault( :death :time), my guess is they will be stretching their 30 card decks to the minimum 35, maybe with useless cards (or atleast this is my prediction), so a 40 card immortal is pure win.
Of course I can be wrong, that's why we need the other's thoughts.
Well this was exactly my thought. And I think it is the thought of our opponents as well. So I think :time would be kind'a stupid to not pack RT and at least one Eternity in their deck.
As for death, I'm not sure what they will bring against us, but using the immortal still looks too risky for me.

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333394#msg333394
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 11:22:51 am »
All right then, I've built a couple of decks:

Entropy - Grabbow vs.  :death
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Quaking Grabowinder vs.  :underworld
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Quaking Grabowinder vs.  :water
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Gravity Duo vs.  :air
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What's left is now the question: Poison Stall or The Immortal? // the one that isn't picked will be our "sideboard" in the vault.
Decks can be sent to other elements, so we don't have to send the Immortal vs. time.

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333401#msg333401
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2011, 11:51:46 am »
i guess immortal against time would be suicide, too... poisonstall sounds much better!

question, love this deck for water, but is there a chance for a shield? i love shields, they are soooo amazing!!! :-)
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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333413#msg333413
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2011, 12:08:06 pm »
Indeed they are, but we don't have any spare. The only shields left will go to the poison or immortal deck.

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333430#msg333430
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2011, 12:59:45 pm »
Nice decks, we still need luck. I like the gravity deck, lets hope Air will come with heavy critters.

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Re: Round 6 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26209.msg333434#msg333434
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 01:21:26 pm »
Well, after building, rebuilding, starting again and doublechecking the vault organization, I came to the conclusion that we can't run the Poison Stall anymore.
If we did, we wouldn't have enough Pillars left and would have to suizide one deck.

So The Immortal will be run this round.

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Grabowinder vs. Time
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Grabowinder vs. Water
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Grabbow, Lt. vs. Death
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The Immortal, vs. UW
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