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Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg311202#msg311202
« on: April 13, 2011, 08:00:19 pm »
Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
3 x Fog Shield
1 x Owl's Eye
3 x Shockwave
1 x Wings
1 x Forest Spirit
1 x Lightning
2 x Mind Flayer
2 x Time Pillar
6 x Graboid
2 x Arsenic
2 x Lycantrophobe
2 x Devourer
6 x Nova
1 x Nightmare
1 x Dusk Shield
2 x Momentum


Discarding
12 x Earth Pendulum

Penalties
13 x Earth Pillar

Converting
None/TBD
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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg311203#msg311203
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 08:01:09 pm »
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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg311248#msg311248
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 08:50:53 pm »
I'd like to have a salvage resembling this:

10 men:
- 2 deflag
- 4 nova

mrpaper:
- 1 arsenic
- 2 devs
- 1 lightning
- 1 duck shield
- 1 shockwave

the dictator:
- 2 mind flayer
- 2 trident
- 2 chaos seed

UTAlan:
- 3 silence
- 2 nova (make a set of 12)
- 1 deflag

devilloss:
- 4 GoTP
- 2 momentum

and our discards:

Kaker's deck:
- 3 GoTP
- 3 Pends

Acsabi's deck:
- 3 EQ
- 3 pends
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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg311249#msg311249
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 08:52:59 pm »
I was thinking of something like this:

Discarding:
13 Stone Pillar (penaltys)
12 Earth Pendulum (from losing)

Savlavging:

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1 Owl's Eye
3 Shockwave
1 Wings
Wasn't a hard choice in this deck. Toadfish and Octopus are rather useless for us and without :water Cards the pillars won't do us much good.
As an alternate choice, we could take a few Wind Pillars, but IMO Earth Pendulums should provide plenty air Quanta to play anything we might need.

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1 Nova
2 Reverse Time
2 Graboid
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1 Lightning
1 Arsenic
1 Reverse Time
2 Nova
1 Dusk Shield

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1 Fog Shield
2 Graboid
2 Nova
1 Arsenic

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2 Momentum
2 Reverse Time

3 Fog Shield
1 Owl's Eye
3 Shockwave
1 Wings

1 Forest Spirit

1 Mind Flayer

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2 Arsenic

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1 Dusk Shield

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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg311331#msg311331
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 10:45:51 pm »
Noe: These apply to Kakerlake's salvage opnions, the post above mine.

Deck 1: Agreed.

Deck 2: Take out the RTs and grab another Nova & Graboid here (So we can have more options in other decks) we already have 12 RTs with only 2 decks to use them in.
Deck 3: Replace the RT, one Nova, and Lightning with Devs. Reason being, we have only enough cards for 4 bows, 2 of which are Discord-based, which don't have room for much splash. We already have enough of those cards without this salvage.
Deck 4: -1 Graboid, +1 Mind Flayer and it's good.

Deck 5: Agreed.

Deck 6: Replace RTs & 1 Lycan with GotPs so our GotP/Graboid decks can be of good use.

Agree with discards.
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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg311587#msg311587
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 06:08:31 am »
12 reverse time should be enough, i agree.
But we already got the devs we need. Doubt we need more than 2 sets.
Lightning is definitely a good CC in bows, i don't see why there wouldn't be room in every one of them.
I agree with 2 flayers, we don't have any yet.

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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg311684#msg311684
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2011, 01:44:20 pm »
I'd go for sime Deflags. For example, deck4, -1 Nightmare, +1 Deflag
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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg313064#msg313064
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 07:26:48 pm »
Updated the list slightly. Got rid of the RT's since I agree with Terro's analysis. I also followed the rest of his suggestion, except for the Devs and Lightning. I agree with Avenger that lightning is good CC in this case and substituted one of the three devourers with a lightning.
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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg313104#msg313104
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 08:07:11 pm »
devourers... do you really think we need any more of them? IMO it would be a better option to get 2 Black Dragons instead, giving the option of actually wasting that excess :darkness given by devourers somewhere.

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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg313140#msg313140
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 08:59:37 pm »
We do have 12 of them as it stands now, 14 with the salvage. I suppose that would be quite a bit more than we'd need. Dragons might be pretty good.
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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg313220#msg313220
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2011, 10:22:03 pm »
Updated the vault with this
3 x Fog Shield
1 x Owl's Eye
3 x Shockwave
1 x Wings
1 x Forest Spirit
1 x Lightning
2 x Mind Flayer
2 x GotP
6 x Graboid
2 x Arsenic
2 x Lycantrophobe
2 x Black Dragon
6 x Nova
1 x Nightmare
1 x Dusk Shield
2 x MomentumKami, I think you forgot to update the opening post correctly.
Changes were: -2 Time Pillar +2 GotP, -2 Devourer +2 Black Dragons.

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Re: Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24398.msg314479#msg314479
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 04:07:51 am »
Yes, I ran out of time before I could update the opening post before the Library closed here. Sorry ^^;
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