The Immortal-Spirit-Dimension [unupped/norare - Nice Bronze-Spin-Grinder]

[Mainiak]

With no upped und no rares I looked to get some out ouf the Bronze league. However with CCYB, Firebolt, Frog rush, Aether DS&Dragons (essence's) I never got 6 in a row.

I searched for a deck with calculable offence and defence irrespective of the opponent. I liked the Quint-Lava Combo on offence and DS-Chains for defence and tried to combine them.

I finally composed this deck (by myself, but I'm pretty sure it has been posted/used before although I didn't find it).

by Mainiak

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5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f6 5f6 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 621 8pu

It works pretty solid.

Wins 133
Losses 43
Spins Only 6 - 8 times I lost the 6th game 
Overall winning pct. around ~75%

It's boring - ablazing immortal spirits and chaining shields
It's slow - takes an average of ~20 turns at least I think
But it's very reliable - 1 spirit, 1 quint, 2 pends starts this deck rollin' while waiting 'til the shields are necessary.

The Losses came mostly - as obvious - against shield destroyers, but early poison and really fast decks are also dangerous. However - the best deck for Bronze I had in my hand this far.

There may be ways to optimise it or other combinations (I tried immortal-adrenaline-frogs but I didn't work).

So what do you think?

Thanks for comments, help and estimations!

[MatrimKK]

Not so many quints are needed imo or spirits since you are stalling, maybe 4 spirits and 3 quints?  With some extra room I would add some deflag so you have a chance at beating shields and fire bolt or rage potion for CC.  The only problem I see with using fire spirits instead of normal growers is that lower hp will hurt you against skull shield, fire shield, and thorn carapace.  This may well be a boon against the less popular gravity shield tho :O

[Mainiak]

Not so many quints are needed imo or spirits since you are stalling, maybe 4 spirits and 3 quints?  With some extra room I would add some deflag so you have a chance at beating shields and fire bolt or rage potion for CC.  The only problem I see with using fire spirits instead of normal growers is that lower hp will hurt you against skull shield, fire shield, and thorn carapace.  This may well be a boon against the less popular gravity shield tho :O

I'm not quite sure about the perfect number of spirits/quints - but the sooner both are drawn the better as it often gets to a close ending and you often need at least one of both early - I currently play 5-5 and I'm getting mad if I don't get one within the first ~5 turns. I'll try a 4-4 and report.

Yep, more deflag helps - at least one more. I normally wouldn't use any CC because of DS, I only died once because of momentum.

I never met more than 2 thorn/fire-Shields, and never a single skull shield, as bone walls are preferred - but they're also pretty annoying if you got just two creatures out. 

[Mainiak]

I'll try a 4-4 and report.

After playing a bunch of games, I highly recommend 5 spirits & quints each. It's too risky with 4, as you often have to have both cards to start your run.

Also 3 defrags are enough, I never died because of a missing defrag, shields are very rare in Bronze, it seems.

I'll change OP deck and update Stats.

[Silty]

What if you use crimson dragons instead?

[Mainiak]

What if you use crimson dragons instead?

That would mean less damage and more quanta costs.

And you need the growing, as it's not uncommon to have only 1 spririt the first 10 turns or so.

[Djhopper :)]

Wins 133
Losses 43
 ~75%

It's boring - ablazing immortal spirits and chaining shields
It's slow - takes an average of ~20 turns at least I think
But it's very reliable - 1 spirit, 1 quint, 2 pends starts this deck rollin' while waiting 'til the shields are necessary.

No it isn't. 75% is NOT reliable! (75.81% to be precise)

[Artois]

Wins 133
Losses 43
 ~75%

It's boring - ablazing immortal spirits and chaining shields
It's slow - takes an average of ~20 turns at least I think
But it's very reliable - 1 spirit, 1 quint, 2 pends starts this deck rollin' while waiting 'til the shields are necessary.

No it isn't. 75% is NOT reliable! (75.81% to be precise)

Not reliable, in comparison to what?

I'm sure Djhopper can post you an effective unupped bronze grinder, cos that would be more helpful 

[Calindu]

Wins 133
Losses 43
 ~75%

It's boring - ablazing immortal spirits and chaining shields
It's slow - takes an average of ~20 turns at least I think
But it's very reliable - 1 spirit, 1 quint, 2 pends starts this deck rollin' while waiting 'til the shields are necessary.

No it isn't. 75% is NOT reliable! (75.81% to be precise)

Not reliable, in comparison to what?

I'm sure Djhopper can post you an effective unupped bronze grinder, cos that would be more helpful 

In comparison with others unupped grinders,like Antagon's grabbow and grabbix,and Djhopper is an good deckbuilder,look in his thread.

[Artois]

I've seen Djhoppers deck thread (its good) and I know he builds good decks, which is why I suggested he posted an example to help in this thread

[Djhopper :)]

Wins 133
Losses 43
 ~75%

It's boring - ablazing immortal spirits and chaining shields
It's slow - takes an average of ~20 turns at least I think
But it's very reliable - 1 spirit, 1 quint, 2 pends starts this deck rollin' while waiting 'til the shields are necessary.

No it isn't. 75% is NOT reliable! (75.81% to be precise)

Not reliable, in comparison to what?

I'm sure Djhopper can post you an effective unupped bronze grinder, cos that would be more helpful 

In comparison with others unupped grinders,like Antagon's grabbow and grabbix,and Djhopper is an good deckbuilder,look in his thread.

Thanks

Here are my favourite arena decks:

by Djhopper :)

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4vd 4vm 58v 5c7 5fa 5ll 5oi 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 745 74b 7gp 7n3 7q5 7q5 7tb 7tb 7td 80g 8pj

by Djhopper :)

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4vo 4vo 55v 593 593 593 5og 5um 5um 5um 622 622 622 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 7t6 7t6 7t6 7td 7td 80i 8pu

But if you want un-upped, you're probably better off with grabbix:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html

EDIT: Ninja'd!