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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg367238#msg367238
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2011, 12:22:14 am »
I almost won against Obliterator. i just forgot i could fractal the dragons. T_T
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg368844#msg368844
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2011, 03:21:20 pm »
So, i use a pretty neat version of this deck, mostly thanks to the Oracle, and I just finished upgrading my last photon (Thank you, Osiris!).

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It works nicely, one of the few decks in which i didn't modify anything except adding that one Light Nymph- helps EM's, and those SoG stalls when waiting for Hopes. the only problem is vs gods with Rewind, since they then target the dragons first...



And a tip here, always remember that you can fractal the opponent's RoLs, and that you can fractal Dragons!
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg368848#msg368848
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2011, 03:29:29 pm »
I don't see a light nymph in your deck.

I think you have a little too much pillar pend maybe you can do -1 each and then -1 hope too.

And yes fractaling opponent creature is efficicent I remember sometimes I killed DM with his archangel because my dragon was hiden.
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg379311#msg379311
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2011, 02:30:36 am »
I found that, trading one of my 3 SoGs for two Sancs will help a lot against some decks, as well as working as cheap healing for new people, allowing for easier EMs. BTW, adding a Light Nymph to this deck if you have one works better than i could've EVER expected.
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg380664#msg380664
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2011, 11:57:09 pm »
I've just started using this deck (took quite a while to get the electrum to upgrade the RoLs).  It rocks!!

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg380715#msg380715
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2011, 01:58:16 am »
what about adding one luciferin? thus you can make higher defense without sacrificing the offense, and maybe a crusader will also help, as it can endow enemies' weapon ability, helping to handle pulvy etc.

the AI of Destiny seems to have changed, and now it'll use the eternity to hit your ROL every turn, thus preventing you from drawing any more card. and also if he has rewind, he'll also use it on your ROL.

so, Destiny is quite difficult, you need to draw all the cards you need in the starting hand or in the very first few rounds, this including a hope, several pillars, several fractal, and ROL.

if you fail to get enough fractal before you have to start your shield, then you'll die slowly.

and if you cannot get a lobo early, you can also find yourself in trouble when his eggs turn out to be some nasty creatures.

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg380837#msg380837
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2011, 10:29:18 am »
Destiny is quite easy to rush with just Rays, tbh. Since she has very slow offense on average, you will usually draw enough (2-3) Fractals before you play Hope.

As for Luci, it's a complete stalling tool. Since AI now targets Rays over anything else once Hope is up, you might like it for late-game usage, but the fact is that once you have enough Dragons to be worth using Luci on, you're going to win in a couple turns (often 1-3).

Crusader is mostly a tool for fun, since you'll need Quantum Pillars to afford any other abilities it would Endow. It's always best to focus your deck, and a Crusader version is too different to change into, especially unupped. It works upped though: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17357
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg383435#msg383435
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2011, 10:00:46 am »
Destiny is quite easy to rush with just Rays, tbh. Since she has very slow offense on average, you will usually draw enough (2-3) Fractals before you play Hope.

As for Luci, it's a complete stalling tool. Since AI now targets Rays over anything else once Hope is up, you might like it for late-game usage, but the fact is that once you have enough Dragons to be worth using Luci on, you're going to win in a couple turns (often 1-3).

Crusader is mostly a tool for fun, since you'll need Quantum Pillars to afford any other abilities it would Endow. It's always best to focus your deck, and a Crusader version is too different to change into, especially unupped. It works upped though: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17357
as for Destiny, from my experience, you need both enough fractals and enough quantum pillars and pends, and still if he gets his eternity in the first 2-3 rounds, you're very likely to die...

he will target the rol even your hope shield is not up, and if you don't have any pends, you have to use ROL to genenrate quanta for shield, then it's means you won't draw any more card.

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg383531#msg383531
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2011, 06:15:11 pm »
Yes, you should only play Rays if you have a Hope and at least 2 Fractals. I can usually wait for 3 and an Archangel too. If I get a Fractal of damage-dealers out (Dragons or Angels), Destiny will waste her time rewinding Rays while dying darn fast. If not, 18-23 Rays and an Electrocutor take her down pretty fast too (unless she gets lucky with an Egg+CP's. once lost to a 39|36 Amethyst Dragon or something silly like that).

Since you say Quantum Pillars though (probably by a mistake), I can imagine she's harder if you use Crusaders.
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg386041#msg386041
« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2011, 12:15:56 am »
Hey im kinda new and i dont really have and lobotomizers at all. But i do almost have all 6 upgraded photons. I was wondering if there was some kind of substitute for lobotomizers?

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg386169#msg386169
« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2011, 09:24:18 am »
Nope, keep using a rareless fg deck until you get at least 2 lobos from arena/ai3/whatever.

Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg386208#msg386208
« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2011, 12:32:31 pm »
Either Im just terribly lucky or eternal phoenix is beatable. the trick here is to make sure that you always have a fractal in your hand, even if that means taking 7 damage a turn. He will fractal your RoLs, so you dont have to keep any in your hand. Just beat him three times in a row.

 

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