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Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg452799#msg452799
« on: January 26, 2012, 12:27:35 am »
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This deck has a ridiculous amount of stalling. The goal of this deck was to assure stalling, and quickly. Even if 6 of the shields fall to deflagrations, you probably will have some more in your hand.

The title is from an anesthetic gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethyl_ether).

Strategy: Try to play your first shield as soon as possible, and keep chaining them until your opponent falls. Use the spiders to net airborne creatures, and the lobotomizers to handle momentumed dragons, Otyughs, and other threats to your creatures and health.

Deck is weak to: Pulverizers (reusable permanent control), Quintessence'd (immortal) creatures, early and repeatable creature control (there are only six spiders here after all) with flying creatures to do damage

Rushes go either way. Phase Spiders are your "main" (hah) source of damage here alongside the lobotomizers, so Thorn Carapace and Firewall don't go over well.

Stall vs. Stall also goes either way. Deck is strong against the boneyard/Schrodingers cats combo.
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg452801#msg452801
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 12:35:10 am »
I know you're going for massive stall, but 6 wings and 6 dimensional shields together are seriously overkill. You really don't need that much protection. Your damage output is quite low as well, with only 6 frail spiders and a lobotomizer. If I may suggest, consider shockwave as a creature control card rather than using that many amount of shields for stalling. There's not much creatures that can get past a wings shield after a shockwave or two in the face. You can also consider using owl's eye for control, though that probably shifts your deck more towards the mono-air section rather than an aether/air duo.

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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg452809#msg452809
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 01:06:08 am »
The chemist in me wants to see explosive gas in there somehow... diethyl ether is highly flammable / explosive after all... just sayin
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg452832#msg452832
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 01:57:21 am »
Maybe I could replace the dim shields with some unstable gases and an immolation or 2 to set them off. Which would make this deck a trio deck.

Alternatively 6 unstable gases instead of dim shields and a Mark of Fire just for them... not like the small amount of extra quanta matters much anyway.

I'll stick with Lobotomizer, not Owl's Eye though.
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg452863#msg452863
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 03:37:45 am »
Make it upped, remove a spider and add 4 quintecenses. FG grinder O_O
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg453198#msg453198
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 12:14:48 am »
Make it upped, remove a spider and add 4 quintecenses. FG grinder O_O
Could someone else please test this? I built it in Trainer, but my browser crashed every time I did it (because my computer is bad), so...
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg453987#msg453987
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 06:11:03 pm »
Make it upped, remove a spider and add 4 quintecenses. FG grinder O_O
Could someone else please test this? I built it in Trainer, but my browser crashed every time I did it (because my computer is bad), so...
I guess that would be a pretty bad FG grinder.

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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg454290#msg454290
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 07:45:22 am »
The chemist in me wants to see explosive gas in there somehow... diethyl ether is highly flammable / explosive after all... just sayin
This deck offers insane amount of stalling but lacks firepower... unstable gas can be cool (and it fits the name!), setting off 5 of them means insta-win vs 100 hp opponents.
Fire mark also gives room for deflags (if you don't mind destroying 1 permanent every 3 turns), or alternatively an immolation to set them all off is cool.  :D
4 wings+4dim shields should be fine.
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg454292#msg454292
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 07:52:09 am »
The chemist in me wants to see explosive gas in there somehow... diethyl ether is highly flammable / explosive after all... just sayin
This deck offers insane amount of stalling but lacks firepower... unstable gas can be cool (and it fits the name!), setting off 5 of them means insta-win vs 100 hp opponents.
Fire mark also gives room for deflags (if you don't mind destroying 1 permanent every 3 turns), or alternatively an immolation to set them all off is cool.  :D
4 wings+4dim shields should be fine.
What about that glitch involving UG?

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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg454451#msg454451
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2012, 06:20:43 pm »
The chemist in me wants to see explosive gas in there somehow... diethyl ether is highly flammable / explosive after all... just sayin
This deck offers insane amount of stalling but lacks firepower... unstable gas can be cool (and it fits the name!), setting off 5 of them means insta-win vs 100 hp opponents.
Fire mark also gives room for deflags (if you don't mind destroying 1 permanent every 3 turns), or alternatively an immolation to set them all off is cool.  :D
4 wings+4dim shields should be fine.
What about that glitch involving UG?
What glitch?
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg454472#msg454472
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 06:52:04 pm »
The chemist in me wants to see explosive gas in there somehow... diethyl ether is highly flammable / explosive after all... just sayin
This deck offers insane amount of stalling but lacks firepower... unstable gas can be cool (and it fits the name!), setting off 5 of them means insta-win vs 100 hp opponents.
Fire mark also gives room for deflags (if you don't mind destroying 1 permanent every 3 turns), or alternatively an immolation to set them all off is cool.  :D
4 wings+4dim shields should be fine.
What about that glitch involving UG?
What glitch?
Currently, setting off UG and reducing your opponent's HP to 0 causes them not to die.  But the deck has Spiders and Lobo to take care of that issue (although if your opponent has a shield up which blocks your damage you're pretty screwed).

EDIT:  However, this is only when the AI uses it against the player, meaning it would only cause a very minor issue in PvP.
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Re: Diethyl Ether (36) [air] [aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36015.msg454582#msg454582
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 01:20:16 am »
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I guess that makes this deck officially a trio now, huh.
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