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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg183232#msg183232
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2010, 02:06:11 am »
hm....what are DreamCatcher's major points?

1. Idiotic AI. It will antimatter cells because they see it as a threat. You get lockdown and free healing all at once :)
2. It's main strategy is to BE creatures for PC. You can use lobo or mind flayer on these creatures and remove a major threat.
3. Lack of powerful damage. This is something he doesn't have much of, especially when combined with a shield like Ice or Thorn.

Also, using PC to remove discords and using only a few creatures to clog it's hand (lots of CC) would also hinder him slightly.

Just a few points for anyone attempting to fully make an unupped deck :)
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg183370#msg183370
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2010, 06:34:15 am »
Those are some good points, I'll try a deck based around them.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg184056#msg184056
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2010, 01:06:51 am »
Aflatoxin + Protected Diamond shield.
RT solves the BE, but that borders on rainbow, which is hard to run unupped.
The only things he has that can get past a PA diamond are his 2 lycans, 2 physilias, and 4 discords.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg193067#msg193067
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2010, 07:10:46 am »
Updated with a deck.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg199724#msg199724
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2010, 10:37:14 pm »
Never drew a single Druidic Staff.  I have my suspicions against the randomization in this game sometimes.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg214905#msg214905
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2010, 08:10:51 am »
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You want to protect in this order: Shield, if he has BE on the field (We all know he does). Pendulums in early game. At least one Bond. Pillars. The other Bonds.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg214916#msg214916
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2010, 08:41:44 am »
Updated with a deck.
highly ineffective
early discord ruins the deck completely, worst if he manage to play a couple of pest (or BH or combination of both) before you get a jade shield in play

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg252541#msg252541
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2011, 02:05:02 pm »
I just tried the upped deck in the first post. Drew 6 towers, all supernovas, two shards, all quints and nothing else before losing. Clearly we have to conclude that the deck sucks.

edit - Yes, I happened to have a deck of 33 upped cards lying around without needing to buy anything for it, and the thing that finally made me bother registering to the forums was complaining about a bad beat. This probably isn't making me look very good.

edit2 - easy EM the second time

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg273156#msg273156
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2011, 08:36:13 am »
Same story here but different.

I tried the rainbow in the first post, he got a butterfly abom 2nd/3rd turn. I didn't get a shield, he spammed creatures, pretty much GG. Got 2 Morning Glories, all 4 SoG's (wich get destroyed ofc), 2 Otyughs with no quint and one hourglass.

No shield was the thing that killed me though... Guess it's just as bad draw this time.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg278594#msg278594
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2011, 10:37:37 pm »
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I did an unupped (excluding shards) version of this and nearly EM'd him. I got lucky because I had lobotomizer in my starting hand and enough pillars and pendulums to power it while still being able to play other cards. And DC didn't get to quint any of his BE abominations. :D
I tried this deck, but i must sadly say that it does not work.
The reason is simple, let me explain:
I got a lobotomizer down on the second turn, so the opening hand was good.
But, if Dreamcatcher has a creature on the field from more than one turn, and then he cast Butterfly Effect on it, he can use the effect.
So, the scenario was: i cast a dimensional shield, DC cast a butterfly effect and destroy my shield, then i lobotomize the creature with butterfly effect. This happened many times, and i was almost defenseless.
The final hit happened when another dimensional shield is gone, i got struck by Discord, so i lost quanta and i cannot play another shield.
I'm sad!!!  :(

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg279562#msg279562
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2011, 11:26:19 am »
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The backstory of the deck was simply that i got a perfect lock with my CCWB version due to the afla and jade, so i isolated those factors and threw in the golem for an easy win condition.
So currently this is what I've been using vs DC since I first got CCWB, though EMs are rare due to poison and slow healing, his own antimattered cells basically locks you in place midgame and your quinted golem kills him.

I cant remember a single loss but that sounds inherently wrong to me so lets say I've lost once or twice with it. 2 black holes early is certainly possible and no supernovas to instantly get a jade out.

Sometimes ive added a golem+quint and removed the fractal too but somehow it feels wrong.
I feel naked without the fractal and ive had one hilarious round where i got off a fractal and drained him Decay style for a few turns.



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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg284037#msg284037
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2011, 07:52:59 pm »
Immaterial weapon and shield for damage and defense. Quinted Otyughs to eat all the small creatures. You'll probably have to eat the Physalias to keep the poison damage down. Discord can get scary if he gets it down early, but Super Novas help against it.
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I used your first deck and got decked out. There is no damage in that deck at all and once dream catchers gets a blackhole - there is just no way you can do enough damage.

This deck needs at minimum +1 lava golem

 

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