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New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042422#msg1042422
« on: February 14, 2013, 07:06:27 pm »
First of all: This might have been posted already, as it's quite an obvious idea. Didn't find it on first try, just remove this thread if it's not the first one and sorry.

Well: When thinking about new cards, I'd often like to include a passive that gives a creature +x/+x for every copy of it in play. Obviously, Fractal destroys this. At the same time, something like "Can't be targeted with Fractal" is not something one wants on a card. But how about a new passive then? That passive could be called "Pack" (Or whatever, I'm no native speaker) and give +x/+x for every copy of this creature on the field. At the same time, "Pack" would also mean "This creature can not be targeted with Fractal".
Example (Not supposed to be a creative card, just to explain  the mechanics):

Pack Wolf

:life
2/2
Pack: +1/+1

I think something in the line of this would be a great addition to the game, as Fractal has probably destroyed a lot of card ideas so far. Happy to hear your thoughts.

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Re: New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042423#msg1042423
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 07:09:08 pm »
So, basically like Scarabs?
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Re: New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042425#msg1042425
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 07:14:22 pm »

Yeah, the skill is called "Swarm".

A "pack wolf" has been suggested before and it also was a life-card.
But it was more like "alpha wolf: summon pack-wolf for 2 :life"

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Re: New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042426#msg1042426
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 07:14:55 pm »
Well, this is Swarm that is applied to both stats...

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Re: New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042438#msg1042438
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 07:43:02 pm »
The differences are:

-The stats aren't X, but Y+X, whereas Y is a given constant and X the number of this cards in play under one players control.
-It could apply to Attack only (Pack: +1/+0), HP only (+0/+1), both (+1/+1) or even used for a malus, e.g.

Maverick Wolf

3 :life
6/6
Pack: -2/-2

The main point is though, that you simply can't use swarm for new creature ideas or at least not for 19 out of 20, because Fractal destroys that. If you want to call it that way, you could also say "Change swarm so that it passively immunizes to Fractal" Furhermore, the stats of a creature might look a bit strange then, e.g. 2+N/3+N.

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Re: New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042445#msg1042445
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 07:53:34 pm »
Kind of like MTG's Banding or Soulbond?
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Re: New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042453#msg1042453
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 07:58:44 pm »
Mh, it's not optional, so I wouldn't compare it to Soulbound, for example.

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Re: New passive: Pack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46891.msg1042912#msg1042912
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 07:19:31 pm »
So, any opinions now that I tried to ellaborate on why I think this is needed despite its similarities to Swarm?

 

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