Eternal Spells

[Zaealix]

...Wait, so the eternal proposed by Moomoose, lets you create another pillar/pendulum a turn, but at a small quanta price?

[OldTrees]

...Wait, so the eternal proposed by Moomoose, lets you create another pillar/pendulum a turn, but at a small quanta price?

If I target a Life Pendulum then I would get an eternal Life Pendulum in my hand.

[Zaealix]

so...1 card slot in hand and 1 quanta for being able to generate 1 /1 of your mark?
I'm finding this a bit baffling, and I'm trying to make sure I understand this.

[OldTrees]

so...1 card slot in hand and 1 quanta for being able to generate 1 /1 of your mark?
I'm finding this a bit baffling, and I'm trying to make sure I understand this.

1) Draw the eternal spell [lets call it blueprints].
2) Play Blueprints targeting a Life pillar. [Paying some amount of  ]
3) Gain a eternal life pillar [Construct Life Pillar].
4) Play Construct Life Pillar. [Paying some amount of  ]
5) Gain a Life Pillar.
Repeat steps 4 and 5

[Zaealix]

Alright, so I was correct in the first place. Sorry for my sudden derpyness on this, but the way the spell was described made it hard for me to grasp.

[esran]

that would have to have a ridiculously high cost to play to be balanced.

[Zaealix]

It's cost stacks upon each use.
minimum is-1 or so.
From there, it's +1 of whatever element the pillar/pendulum belongs to per use.
so if you get 2 pillars, it's 2 .
Think of it as an exchange rate instead of a 1-time cost, that's how these 'Eternals' are supposed to be balanced in the first place.

[moomoose]

i think you missed one point- it would cost to cast the spell to make the pillar/pendulum eternal, and then the subsequent pillar pend would cost to use, regardless of what element the pillar/pend target is.

[storyteller]

heh

7 Channeled Quanta  (Quanta matching the item in question)
Deal a weapon attack.

[Nepycros]

Maybe it'd be interesting if we dragged the Archetype Series into this? Allow a person to start changing the creatures in their hand based on the effects of archetypes, and allow flaws to enter the characters as well?

[OldTrees]

Maybe it'd be interesting if we dragged the Archetype Series into this? Allow a person to start changing the creatures in their hand based on the effects of archetypes, and allow flaws to enter the characters as well?

Small abilities (pro or con) would usually make more sense as Eternal teaching spells than as one use teaching spells. However these spells would be more limited than most Eternal spells in that most would not stack with repeated uses on a creature.

[Nepycros]

Maybe it'd be interesting if we dragged the Archetype Series into this? Allow a person to start changing the creatures in their hand based on the effects of archetypes, and allow flaws to enter the characters as well?

Small abilities (pro or con) would usually make more sense as Eternal teaching spells than as one use teaching spells. However these spells would be more limited than most Eternal spells in that most would not stack with repeated uses on a creature.

Indeed, though I think that it's worth having. If the cost of the eternal spell is that it requires multiple targets in order to stack its effect more than once, that could be a valuable thing. We could even make it change from an "Archetype" into a "Path" that creatures follow to become stronger.