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[furballdn]

I was sort of thinking along the lines of a phalanx or something. The creature would protect the creatures beside it (what I have in mind is the earth dragon spreading its wings to cover the nearby creatures).

[OldTrees]

I was sort of thinking along the lines of a phalanx or something. The creature would protect the creatures beside it (what I have in mind is the earth dragon spreading its wings to cover the nearby creatures).

That is different than what I thought it said.

If it is protecting adjacent creatures (could even be all 6) then Earth would probably be best if it is physical cover.

[Drake_XIV]

I'm sorry if this was not addressed a few months ago, but could I get your thoughts on:

Odonata | Odonata

Also, could I have you post your thoughts in the thread as to fulfill the Crucible requirements?  Much appreciated.

[furballdn]

I was sort of thinking along the lines of a phalanx or something. The creature would protect the creatures beside it (what I have in mind is the earth dragon spreading its wings to cover the nearby creatures).

That is different than what I thought it said.

If it is protecting adjacent creatures (could even be all 6) then Earth would probably be best if it is physical cover.

Yes. Physical cover. That is what I imagined. As for that, would 6 (hexagonal) protection be better or just 2 (sideways)? How much hp should it have? I'm thinking around 12. What should it cost? And, should AoE ignore the protection like AoE ignores most other psuedo invincibility?

[OldTrees]

I'm sorry if this was not addressed a few months ago, but could I get your thoughts on:

Odonata | Odonata

Also, could I have you post your thoughts in the thread as to fulfill the Crucible requirements?  Much appreciated.

In many ways it is similar to the Armory card Monkey (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21667.0.html)
It affects non activated skills instead of being able to affect creatures.

I was sort of thinking along the lines of a phalanx or something. The creature would protect the creatures beside it (what I have in mind is the earth dragon spreading its wings to cover the nearby creatures).

That is different than what I thought it said.

If it is protecting adjacent creatures (could even be all 6) then Earth would probably be best if it is physical cover.

Yes. Physical cover. That is what I imagined. As for that, would 6 (hexagonal) protection be better or just 2 (sideways)? How much hp should it have? I'm thinking around 12. What should it cost? And, should AoE ignore the protection like AoE ignores most other psuedo invincibility?

AoE would be the weakness of Cover since the guardian would quickly die. It is rare for there to be a difference between hexagonal and sideways. Either works.

[furballdn]

So what should the stats/pricing of it be? I feel the pricing should be around 3-4 and the hp should be near 10. That also brings up the point of what should upping it change about it. More hp? Cheaper casting cost? Higher attack? Some or all of the above?

[OldTrees]

So what should the stats/pricing of it be? I feel the pricing should be around 3-4 and the hp should be near 10. That also brings up the point of what should upping it change about it. More hp? Cheaper casting cost? Higher attack? Some or all of the above?

10 hp, 2|4 attack, cost 5-7 |4-6

[Drake_XIV]

Can I get your opinion on:

Energy Wyrm | Energy Wyrm

[OldTrees]

Can I get your opinion on:

Energy Wyrm | Energy Wyrm

It is good practice to make a card useful in an amount of 1-6. Unstable limits the card so the 2nd copy is a dead card. Taking this into account, what Aether deck would not include precisely 1 Energy Wyrm? A card is obviously OP if a card improves any deck. Finally, it is too similar to Psion.

[furballdn]

So what should the stats/pricing of it be? I feel the pricing should be around 3-4 and the hp should be near 10. That also brings up the point of what should upping it change about it. More hp? Cheaper casting cost? Higher attack? Some or all of the above?

10 hp, 2|4 attack, cost 5-7 |4-6

You think 6|5 ? Isn't that a bit excessive? That's nearly 2 higher than my initial idea. I could lower the attack, but it's more of meant to act as a protector or guardian, so it's attack isn't that important.

[OldTrees]

So what should the stats/pricing of it be? I feel the pricing should be around 3-4 and the hp should be near 10. That also brings up the point of what should upping it change about it. More hp? Cheaper casting cost? Higher attack? Some or all of the above?

10 hp, 2|4 attack, cost 5-7 |4-6

You think 6|5 ? Isn't that a bit excessive? That's nearly 2 higher than my initial idea. I could lower the attack, but it's more of meant to act as a protector or guardian, so it's attack isn't that important.

I am assuming that the player will be taking advantage of guardian effect to protect multiple other creatures.
I put those ranges because I am not sure of the pratical strength of the effect. It might be 5 |4

[furballdn]

So what should the stats/pricing of it be? I feel the pricing should be around 3-4 and the hp should be near 10. That also brings up the point of what should upping it change about it. More hp? Cheaper casting cost? Higher attack? Some or all of the above?

10 hp, 2|4 attack, cost 5-7 |4-6

You think 6|5 ? Isn't that a bit excessive? That's nearly 2 higher than my initial idea. I could lower the attack, but it's more of meant to act as a protector or guardian, so it's attack isn't that important.

I am assuming that the player will be taking advantage of guardian effect to protect multiple other creatures.
I put those ranges because I am not sure of the pratical strength of the effect. It might be 5 |4

If quint costs 4|3 , this card acts as a psuedoquint for about 2 (you rarely see so many creatures that hexagonal protection would be usefl). A psuedoquint would probably half to 3/4th the cost of a quint to me, and then you double that, and then add on a bit more cost for stats, so I think a 4|3 sounds reasonable. 5|4 as well. Either way, I see cost hovers around 3-5 .

Now then some actual implementation questions:
What if two guardians both guard a creature and your opponent targets the creature? Who gets hit? The first guardian played?
If two guardians guard protect each other, and your opponent targets one, who gets hit? The first guardian played?
Will there be something like "layers" of protection with each guardian you play?

Maybe also when upped, it gains a bit more attack at a more expensive price. I wanted it to seem like a phalanx, protective yet also able to deal damage. Or the other way around. An expensive phalanx like creature unupped, cheap (like minor phoenix) guardian creature upped?