RoL Fractal Hope Problem.

[kgrrtt2004]

Here is what I came across when using a RoL Fractal Hope Deck. This has been happening a lot recently.



Any thoughts?

[jumpoffduck]

Up the dragons, don't play as many RoLs. You only need 7 to block anything that isn't fahrenheit/fire lance, and SoG can deal with that damage. You seem to have more than enough light quanta generation (167 left over) so you definitely don't need that many RoLs on the field.

It might be a draw/randomness problem too, if you didn't draw your lobo early enough to stop the fireflies

[kgrrtt2004]

I feel like its those feral bonds too. Ferox has them as well. Maybe those are the real hard ones for this build.

[jmdt]

I feel like its those feral bonds too. Ferox has them as well. Maybe those are the real hard ones for this build.

They are.  There are a number of decks that Rol/hope just will not beat without super luck.  Most healing decks generally fits in this category.  If you want a higher win% look at CC? why bother?

[coinich]

Yalidae posted a Butterfly Effect variant, and I try to rush Jade Dragons myself instead.

[Hodari]

I feel like its those feral bonds too. Ferox has them as well. Maybe those are the real hard ones for this build.

Those will be the biggest problem again several FG's.  With Fire Queen, the best solution is to simply lobotomize all the queens as they come out so there aren't that many creatures for the bonds to heal with.  Ferox is more of a problem and usually seems to come down to being a question of if you can kill him before he gets too many bonds out.  If he gets more than 4, it'll be pretty much impossible to do enough damage to win. 

Basically RoL/Hope has 3 weaknesses:
1.  Rush decks that kill you before you can get the combo out
2.  Mass creature kill like Plague or Rain of Fire
3.  Decks that can simply outheal your damage until you deck out.

For the last category, best bet is don't play any more rays than you need to and leave as many spots open for dragons as you can, but when going against something like Ferox that can heal 140+ per turn, there isn't much you can do.  There will always be some counter to every deck(if there wasn't, it'd be nerfed pretty quickly)

[Tea is good]

All you had to do was fractal fewer RoLs?

[kgrrtt2004]

All you had to do was fractal fewer RoLs?

Yeah I understand that now. I must watch how much attack each creature has rather than rush as many RoLs as possible. Thanks for the help guys.

[Nume]

There is a balance though. You do need to have enough RoL's to produce the quanta for dragons relatively early. Generally 8-10 is about perfect against those FGs imo. Also if you use luciferin in your deck, it makes it a lot easier because once you have a couple dragons, you can make them make light too. With lucifirin sometimes I stop after 1 fractal (6-7 RoL generally).

[coinich]

Rustler+Jade Dragons.  Twice the quanta.