my rainbow needs help...

[card master]

hi im card master and i need help... i lose against nearly everything!!! plz tell me what you think should go and what should be added.

Thanks in advance: card master.

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[Jappert]

For trying FG's and AI5:
(almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1615.0.html
This deck resembles your deck the most. Upgrade the Otyughs and Towers first.

For AI3:
Shrieker Rush
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,482.0.html
This is one of many good AI3 grind decks, you will win most games against an Ai3 opponent.

If you are trying to beat False Gods, prepare to lsoe alot, that's normal. For now, if you are low on electrum. I'd advise beating either AI3 or AI5 to get some money. To beat False Gods you really want to wait till you have at least some upgrades (see the first link I send).

[TheIdioticIdiot]

can you specify what you are playing with this deck?
FGs?
AI5?
elders?

[card master]

Theidioticidiot, i dont really know what to use, when to use it and what to use it against... basically... im a total newbie... do i really need 3 different things for 3 different AIs?
if so plz tell me .

card master.

EDIT: cant i use it for all 3? oh and here's my deck atm...

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[poojam11]

Well to me you're deck's good don't lose any of your cards just add. With 3 rare weps you should be good. If your lucky and get an eternity in a wheel thingy keep it, coz your make is  . Don't forget to update your deck image old deck images can really confuse people if you've added cards to your deck.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

I have one deck (vNG) made for T50
3 decks made for FG (puppychow rainbow, CCYB, and the lone stalker)
2 decks made for elder EM (USEM, SCEM)
reasons behind having different decks for different levels of AI is that they are very different...
for elder farming, you want to be quick, and rushes allow you to be quick, if you are running an upped deck, a quick EM deck is better
for T50, you want rush too, but either with more control (unupped), or super fast rush
for FG, you just want a designated deck... don't try to create your own FG deck for now, when you get to the point where you have a lot of spare electrum, then you can think about making your own

[Jappert]

I have one deck (vNG) made for T50
3 decks made for FG (puppychow rainbow, CCYB, and the lone stalker)
2 decks made for elder EM (USEM, SCEM)
reasons behind having different decks for different levels of AI is that they are very different...
for elder farming, you want to be quick, and rushes allow you to be quick, if you are running an upped deck, a quick EM deck is better
for T50, you want rush too, but either with more control (unupped), or super fast rush
for FG, you just want a designated deck... don't try to create your own FG deck for now, when you get to the point where you have a lot of spare electrum, then you can think about making your own

He doesn't have upped cards, so don;t advise CCYB or decks like that. We need unupped decks!

[TheIdioticIdiot]

I have one deck (vNG) made for T50
3 decks made for FG (puppychow rainbow, CCYB, and the lone stalker)
2 decks made for elder EM (USEM, SCEM)
reasons behind having different decks for different levels of AI is that they are very different...
for elder farming, you want to be quick, and rushes allow you to be quick, if you are running an upped deck, a quick EM deck is better
for T50, you want rush too, but either with more control (unupped), or super fast rush
for FG, you just want a designated deck... don't try to create your own FG deck for now, when you get to the point where you have a lot of spare electrum, then you can think about making your own

He doesn't have upped cards, so don;t advise CCYB or decks like that. We need unupped decks!

I didn't advice him to get CCYB, i was telling him that using different decks for different AI is more efficient
as for newbie FG decks, RoL/hope is the best

[card master]

um... what does the following mean? : ccyb, usem scem...

im still a total newb remember...

[Jappert]

um... what does the following mean? : ccyb, usem scem...

im still a total newb remember...

Those are deck names. The problem is though, they use alot of upgraded cards (only upgraded). Since you don't have upgraded cards, other decks would be better for you.

To know if a deck is good or not totally depends on wich opponent you are facing. So what we need to know is: what opponent do you want to defeat?

At this moment, you just need Electrum (money) to upgrade cards. There are two "easy" ways to do it. Fighting alot of AI3 or fighting alot of AI5. Yes, you need different decks for these, so we need to know what you want.

You maybe see some other people talking about fighting False Gods (AI6) or Top50. I would recommend having a good deck and quite a few upgraded cards before you try this. You will lose alot if you try to beat these opponents without upgraded cards.

So:
- Do you want to beat alot of AI3's and get electrum this way? OR
- Do you want to beat alot of AI5's and get electrum this way?

AI3: easy to beat, you will use a small deck, games will be fast, you will win normal cards.
AI5: harder to beat, games take longer, you will have a (very) small chance to win upgraded cards.

When you have made your choice, I'll post a deck here based on the cards you currently have.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

here is the newbie version:
get the following deck:
mark of time
1 short sword
17 stone pillars
6 graboids
6 shriekers
go farm AI3...
after that, get this deck:
mark of earth
1 hammer (use vampire stilleto if you have any)
6 immolations
1 rage potion
6 photons
4 deflagations
2 crimson dragons
5 lava golems
5 fire pillars
go farm T50, until you have 3 lobotomizers
now, use the first deck to farm AI3 again, and make this deck when you have the money
3 lobotomizers
6 fractals
2 golden dragons
4 hopes
9 aether pillars
6 RoLs (upgraded photons, the only upgraded cards in the deck)
then go farm FGs (use strategies here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6546.0.html), and then use your money to get better anti FG decks found here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11016.0.html

[card master]

my rainbow easily kills ai3 so no problem there... i'd like to turn things up a notch and try to kill ai5 and then maybe FG so plz i would love a few deck ideas