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Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg201183#msg201183
« on: November 14, 2010, 08:01:49 pm »
Help me get this deck able to succeed T50
It works in AI3 but isn't fast enough to succeed harder than that.

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I use crimson dragons to stall until I can Fire bolt for 24+ damage (70 :fire ) and than burn my opponent with them

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Re: Help with Fire deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg201188#msg201188
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 08:08:07 pm »
I don't see any chance for this deck to be an AI5-killer..

If you want to use some kind of firestall, go for this (http://elementswiki.co.cc/decks/lv5-farmer-creatureless-pyromancer/) deck. It's fun to play, immune to CC and gives you regular EM's ;)

 
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Re: Help with Fire deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg201197#msg201197
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 08:19:14 pm »
I don't have access to upgraded cards yet, and nor do I have the electrum. :(

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Re: Help with Fire deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg201201#msg201201
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 08:24:17 pm »
1- T50 =/= AI5

2- Change mark to earth, add some Lava golems and free criatures (photons/sparks, your call) and throw in 6 Immolations as you reduce the number of dragons to at least half of what you have (better with 1-2) and keep only 5 pillars. Consider throwing that RoF out it's too situational (ie, only good against RoL/Hope). Take a hammer with you for extra fun.
EDIT: as you don't have the electrum, kill some AI3s until you can afford those changes. You can sell up to 4 of those dragons. They are pretty much useless.

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Re: Help with Fire deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg201909#msg201909
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 11:01:24 pm »
Let me clarify. I want a  :fire accumulation deck, not a lava golem deck.

I did make this modification.

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Re: Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg201961#msg201961
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 12:07:01 am »
After testing and modification, I got this

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It works fairly well, but which card do I upgrade first?

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Re: Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg201993#msg201993
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 12:48:24 am »
It works fairly well, but which card do I upgrade first?
If you're going to stick with this deck, go pillars upped first. It allows your fire to accumulate faster, so it speeds up your deck immensely.

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Re: Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg202010#msg202010
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 01:08:46 am »
I've added some SoGs, But what should I remove to get down to 30 cards again?

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Re: Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg202018#msg202018
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 01:31:57 am »
I've added some SoGs, But what should I remove to get down to 30 cards again?

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This advice is debateable, but you could leave it at 32 cards.

Advantage: You can deck out 30 card decks (Majority of semi-casual decks in PvP, and the simpler rushes in T50). Needed for cases of reflective shield ect.
Disadvantage: Less likely to draw pillars, less quanta accumulation and slower games.

I would go with 32 cards, but I like stalls, not rushes. The choice is yours.

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Re: Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg203953#msg203953
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 08:27:20 pm »
I've added some SoGs, But what should I remove to get down to 30 cards again?

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People can add opinions about this deck, Mageling, but here's a fact: having less than 6 fire bolts is straight up wrong.

You're nudging your way towards a fire stall, which is a specific, popular, and effective deck type.  Here's  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6515.0.html) the set standard.

My recommendation would be -6 pillars, +1 bolt, +1-2 fahrenheits, +3 ragepots.  It looks like you've come a long way in the right direction from that first post.  Keep it up.  :)

Edit: Also, converting half your pillars to pendulums in a mono-deck will help protect you a bit from earthquakes.

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Re: Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg203962#msg203962
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 08:43:06 pm »
You went from rush to stall. oO

I would DEFINITELY add another fahrenheit, another RoF, and for killing a crimson dragon or 2. Or fire spirits, since they grow. A few more deflags - Believe it or not, you need quite a few deflags  against most T50 to slow them down. 3-4 is a good ammount for me.

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Re: Help with Fire quanta accumulation deck vs T50 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15716.msg204006#msg204006
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 09:34:59 pm »
OK. Two questions.
Where do I get more Fahrenheit, and beyond SoG, what order should I upgrade my cards

 

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