Mono Fire HELP!!!!!!

[1chase1997]

my deck is supposed to be a pvp deck but how can i make this better since i lose way more than i win                 

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[lawlmaster09]

hmmmm

well, there are only a rew good fire decks, here are (some) of your choices

fire/light/aether

fire: pheonixes, burning pillars, and immolations

5x burning pillar
6x immolation
6x pheonix
6x photon
3x fractal
2x deflagleration
1x fahrenhiet(if you dont have one than DONT replace with hammer)


MARK: AETHER

STRATEGY: immolate photons to get out pheonixes, immolate pheonixes to get out more pheonixes, fractal photons foar yay awesomeness

fire/aether

exactly the same exept replace photons with sparks (i perfer this one because this is a rush deck and alot of sparks deal more DMG than alot of photons)

MONO FIRE

3x pheonix
5x lava golem
6x immolation
6x photon
3x deflagleration
1x fahrenhiet (if you dont have one then replace it with hammer)
6x burning pillar

this deck is probably the hardest to play but the best.

MONO FIRE

4x fire spirit
3x crimson dragon
2x pheonix
2x deflag
6x fire bolt
2x immolation
1x fire shield
1x fahrenhiet (DONT REPLACE WITH HAMMER)
9x burning pillar

this deck is very maluable

ALL DECKS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 30 CARDS

[Retribution]

If you have the cards and upgrades to run a decent deck in PvP, fire stall is a great one: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6515.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6515.0.html)

Or a minor phoenix + cremation = dragon combo: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6179.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6179.0.html)

This section is full of great decks: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,31.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,31.0.html)

[Lifestream]

More ash eaters and immolate to speed up your dragons 

[hermantheowl]

try this http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5828.0.html plastique's reply has a deck in it. Feel free to tweak a deck until it suits your preference.


The Golem rush is good for T50 to get rares.


Golem rush can be tweaked as well. BOth Crimson Dragon and Phoenix work.

A dragon one

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Fire shield helps aganist ROL hope decks (to get rid of all those rays of light)

For a Phoneix one:
You could Repalce dragons with phoenixes and a deflag with another Phoenix and The fire shield with another pillar. Also If you have no rares you could use a hammer for the weapon. Either Vampire Stiletto or Farenheit repalce the hammer when you get it.

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[bojengles77]

Everyone is giving advice for an upped deck, which is clearly not the objective - he is using it for Beginner's League.  You're most likely losing because a majority of your damage is coming from dragons - dragons with low hp. PvP decks almost always have atleast a few creature control cards - lightnings, shockwave, firebolts - any form of cc will kill a crimson dragon except for a <10 quanta drain life. Because of this, i'm sure your dragons die often and you have no capacity for damage. I would keep 2-3 dragons for overflow quanta and extra damage, but take your main damage from golems who can grow to the point where they are hard to kill. I'd recommend also taking your quanta from immolates instead of pillars for speed. I'd try a deck like this:

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Instead of bolts for control use rage potions, they can be used offensively and defensively for CC or on your golems. I added a couple phoenixes if you need something to immolate later in the game (and they have good damage). I added the immolates instead of pillars for speed and kept the deflags for shields. You can keep the sword (use a gavel instead for more damage) if you don't have a fahrenheit, not a problem. Using golems for damage will leave your deck less susceptible to creature control and early golems will allow you to grow them to 5+ hp where CC is less effective and may require 2 spells instead of 1, saving other golems from dying.

edit: got ninja'd while posting =(. but all this in mind, fire stall is my favorite fire deck

[hermantheowl]

The decks posted are unupped.

I was assuming PVP meant PVP ONE
THIS is for PVP ONE (NO UPGRADES, those marks should be pillars) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5828.0.html

My post came out wrong because I was in a hurry.
The other ones are UNUPPED but for THE WRONG ENVIRONMENT. Should have been more clear about that. My mistake. I was trying to explain that a deck someone posted was really for rushing the top 50 (because it was from their deck help post that had the goal of playing vs top 50) with NO UPGRADES and NOT FOR PVP ONE. I went overboard with my explanation.

I'm sure this will work:

Everyone is giving advice for an upped deck, which is clearly not the objective - he is using it for Beginner's League.  You're most likely losing because a majority of your damage is coming from dragons - dragons with low hp. PvP decks almost always have atleast a few creature control cards - lightnings, shockwave, firebolts - any form of cc will kill a crimson dragon except for a <10 quanta drain life. Because of this, i'm sure your dragons die often and you have no capacity for damage. I would keep 2-3 dragons for overflow quanta and extra damage, but take your main damage from golems who can grow to the point where they are hard to kill. I'd recommend also taking your quanta from immolates instead of pillars for speed. I'd try a deck like this:

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Instead of bolts for control use rage potions, they can be used offensively and defensively for CC or on your golems. I added a couple phoenixes if you need something to immolate later in the game (and they have good damage). I added the immolates instead of pillars for speed and kept the deflags for shields. You can keep the sword (use a gavel instead for more damage) if you don't have a fahrenheit, not a problem. Using golems for damage will leave your deck less susceptible to creature control and early golems will allow you to grow them to 5+ hp where CC is less effective and may require 2 spells instead of 1, saving other golems from dying.

edit: got ninja'd while posting =(. but all this in mind, fire stall is my favorite fire deck

[bojengles77]

The decks posted are unupped.

yeah, sorry, there was one post giving links to upped decks , i wasn't talking about your advice considering i hadn't seen it yet.

[hermantheowl]

How do you change an immolation rush deck for pvp. The only one's I've seen are for rushing the top 50.

MONO FIRE (earth mark)

3x pheonix
5x lava golem
6x immolation
6x photon
3x deflagleration
1x fahrenhiet (if you dont have one then replace it with hammer)
6x burning pillar

this deck is probably the hardest to play but the best.
-lawlmaster09

This looks like a deck example I recieved when I asked for help with rushing the top 50.
I think it might need tweaking for pvp1 becasue the goal is differnt. For t50 it helps to be extra extra fast to have a chance at winning rares from the top 50 who use lots of upgrades. I see lots of creture control in pvp 1 (firebolt, lightning, rage potion...). Put rage potions in it?