Fire Rainbow Rush. AI3 farmer.

[Mahon]

Hello I am planning to start farming AI3 so I can start upping my cards. The following is the deck I am currently using

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52o 5c1 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5rr 5ur
It has been working really well and I rarely have dead cards in my hand unless I just don't draw any Immolations, or Novas.

My question is the Poison, and Vampire Stiletto or Arsenic and a second Lyncanthrope.

My first instinct was to run the Arsenic and Lycanthrope. Then I got to thinking this deck wins around turn 7.

Arsenics damage scales 2+1 for every turn it is out beyond the first. For my purposes AI3 rarely if ever kills permanents so I am not factoring that into my calculations. At least the decks that stand a chance like Water decks who can freeze all my beefy attackers, or an early Maxwell's Demon.

The Vampire Stiletto hits for 4. Plus adds healing

So turn by turn we have:

Turn____Arsenic_______VS

1)______2+0=2_______4
2)______4+1=5_______8
3)______6+3=9_______12
4)______8+6=14______16
5)_____10+10=20_____20
6)_____12+15=27_____24
7)_____14+21=35_____28
8)_____16+28=44_____32

So if an Arsenic drops on turn 1 chances are it will end up doing more damage, however the only decks that have a chance to win are the decks that manage to out race me, usually because I get a bad draw and they a good one, or early control before I can set up. Either way the games ends up being fairly close with the difference between winning and losing 1 turn.

Despite a second Lycanthrope being damage wise superior to Poison I am a stickler for consistency, and I don't want dead cards in my hand like a Lycanthrope because VS ate a  . Plus it is nice to have poison against some of the decks.

So what does the community think? Am I over analyzing it, higher damage is better damage? Any other changes or suggestions you can give? I am really only interested in gaining coins so I can up my cards. I should mention I do already have 5 Shards of Gratitude and 1 green background that just needs an upgrade. Could there be a better way for me to continue gaining coins faster than AI3?

[trisk22]

I think that your deck is just fine as it is, but you need to change your mark to  for your golems. If you want more money, AI5 MIGHT work, although this is controversial.

[Mahon]

I tried a version with  . It did have the potential for more damage, but it was also less consistent. I run a full 6 novas and 6 Immolations to fuel the growing. The mark allows for quick Fire Spirits that can either be Immolationed, or they can eat all that extra  . Also it is nice because say I get 3 novas in my opening hand and no immolations, I can hard cast a Golem turn 3.

[catalyzeme]

I think the healing is the crucial element here. Stiletto is a no-brainer in my mind. If anything, I'd take out the Poison and run a Graboid or something, although that might be better with an Earth mark. I suppose 2 unblockable damage from a Poison is better than +3 from a blessing, and Momentum probably isn't necessary for AI3, so Poison is a pretty good choice at the very worst. You've certainly got some flexibility to make a quick tweak though, after more testing.


 Have you considered Graviton Fire Eaters over Fire Spirits? That would make your Golems slightly easier to play, but still give you a way to burn extra fire quanta. Seem's like you have enough Novas and Photons/Immos that you should almost never end up lacking 2 Gravity quanta. Cremating a Graviton Fire Eater will also net you more Fire quanta than Fire Spirit would, and it's less susceptible to the Maxwell's Demon AI3 deck.

Overall, this is a pretty solid rainbow and you should breeze through AI3s with it

[kev]

Please give credit where it is due.  You've come up with a modification of plastiqe's No Land Stompy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12102.0.html).  In fact, you might get more useful replies if you'd just replied in plastiqe's thread rather than created your own.

To answer your question, I've extensively tested exchanging the arsenic for a stiletto in a couple different ways, and I've consistently had slightly worse results.

[Mahon]

Sorry I didn't know there was another deck so similar. I arrived at this deck after farming Top50 with http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3882.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3882.0.html) and trying http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6298.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6298.0.html). I kind of combined them and this is what I came up with.

Graboid wouldn't fit. The golems suck up all the  .

I tried the graviton Fire Eater but I prefer the flexibility of Fire Spirit as with Mark of  I can cast it fairly early even off 1 nova and then it can fuel an immolation.

Yeah Poison is kind of meh, I just can't come up with something better. Maybe Chrysaora but it needs a lot more  , takes a  away from Forest Spirit, and generally is slower than poison I have found. The one nice thing though is it can be cast off 1 nova and be immolationed.

Looking at that other deck, I like the idea of Rage Potion, it can kill a maxwell's demon, or it can buff an attacker so never a dead card.

Thanks for the link to that other thread, and the help.

[trisk22]

Sorry I didn't know there was another deck so similar. I arrived at this deck after farming Top50 with http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3882.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3882.0.html) and trying http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6298.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6298.0.html). I kind of combined them and this is what I came up with.

Graboid wouldn't fit. The golems suck up all the  .

I tried the graviton Fire Eater but I prefer the flexibility of Fire Spirit as with Mark of  I can cast it fairly early even off 1 nova and then it can fuel an immolation.

Yeah Poison is kind of meh, I just can't come up with something better. Maybe Chrysaora but it needs a lot more  , takes a  away from Forest Spirit, and generally is slower than poison I have found. The one nice thing though is it can be cast off 1 nova and be immolationed.

Looking at that other deck, I like the idea of Rage Potion, it can kill a maxwell's demon, or it can buff an attacker so never a dead card.

Thanks for the link to that other thread, and the help.

I think that fire eaters are still better, because as you don't want to switch your mark, most of your growable creatures should grow with your mark.

[Mahon]

Ohh, I didn't even think about that, I was thinking either Fire Spirit, or Graviton Fire Eater. I ditched the Poison and added a Graviton Fire Eater, and I am enjoying it! Also dropped a Lava Golem for a Rage Potion. Not sure on that change yet.