What to do with 9000?

[montrossen]

I have 9000 , and I don't want to lose it all by making a total noob deck. All advice is helpful, but what I really want to do is build a deck with Chaos power and oty's.
This is my current deck:

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55k 55p 55q 55q 55r 55r 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lm 5lm 5lm 5m6 745 745 8pq

All help is appreciated, but I would prefer help making a deck like the one above with Chaos power instead of Blessing.

[dawn to dusk]

Chaos power is great for chaos wyrms and toys are great for swallow. Both are amazing decks. Depending on the shards you have, go with one of these decks. SoFrees for CPWyrms and SoFo and SoP for swallow.

[Submachine]

9000 is the perfect amount to start doing a RoLhope deck. Upgrading 6 Photons cost exactly 9000 iirc.

[Chapuz]

I suggest you build Limitless Speed and start winning serious electrum against FGs.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/rainbow-decks/limitless-speed-fg-otk-(semi-unupped)(epic)/
Upgrade a Light Dragon, 2 Rage Elixirs and 3 Hourglasses.

With the electrum gained in FGs you will be able to upgrade 20 cards quite fast and go to farm Shards efficiently in Bronze/Silver with any of the decks of the Community Recommended Decks

[Chapuz]

Before choosing between Limitless Speed and Rolhope, I suggest you asking around more a bit. I have no experience with LS, but i heard rolhope has higher winrate if used right.

I heared the opposite. In fact, I haven't seen a single comment in  a Rol-Hope deck in the last... 6 months?

[Zawadx]

RoL/Hope is extremly draw dependant, and gets substantially better with pillars upped.

LS is great with 6 ups. While I haven't played it, I'd say that it's better than RoL/Hope with 6 ups.

Once you get more ups, you can improve your RoL/Hope and it will get better than LS, but by then it'd prolly be better to get a silver/bronze grinder. Or farm shards and get VDB/PDials. That's the life.

[Espithel]

I've tested all of the unupped FG grinders except Rol/Hope and they all hate me and I would recommend none of them.
I have heard good things about RoL hope, but it's certainly not used as much as LS or firecell or one of Chapuz's other decks, which is probably an indicator of a minority for whatever reason.

Use what works for you. If your unupped monoentropy can somehow grind plat, then you might as well use that.

What I would do is stick to bronze/AI4 with the unupped grinder of your choice, look at your shards, and depending on what shards you have, save up and build one of either:
-Pdials (6 SoSac and 3 SoD)
-Swallow (4 SoFo and 3 SoPa)
-Brave Freedom (6 SouFflé and 4 SoBra)
-Speed Poison Kamikaze (5 SoSac and 6 SoBra)

And then go to town on Gold/Plat.
Those things have been proven to work, typically.
Just remember to try different flavours until you find something you like.

You can make more mistakes and buy more failures when you have an upped grinder, so it's a very good idea to get one first before experimenting with other fancy decks involving upgrades.

After that, otyguh decks... Well, Swallow.
Otyguhs are much better upgraded - you'll barely need to buff it up.
I question what entropy/gravity would do for you, though:

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Try something like this when you want to make that deck. I'm sure other people will help you. Just make an upped grinder first.

[Zawadx]

Frozen, the problem with your plan is that AI4 grinding is seriously slow. Even with the best unupped decks, it's rare to get more than 2 upped cards for selling in an hour. With a UEI of ~2000, to build a fully upped deck you need 22.5 hours. Even with great luck it's a really long period. Not to mention you must grind for shards.

Building a 6-up FG deck improves the UEI a LOT, to around 6000. That means you'll have made up the expenses in 2 hours, and will take 9 hours of grinding to make a fully upped deck.

[Espithel]

And from what I have experienced, AI4/bronze grinding is actually faster than FG grinding.
Then again, my experiences with FG grinding is that it just wants the user to die in a horrible, horrible manner, which I hope is just only me.

Personally, I disliked the constant tedium and chore that comes with FG grinding, and preferred arena and AI4 grinding. Sure, it probably was slower, but it was more fun and more palatable for me. And it wasn't 22.5 hours to get a fully upped deck when I was bronze grinding - It wasn't nine hours, but it was closer to 9 than 22.5.

Oh well. He can use either. If he can stomach FG grinding, then the world and envy to him.

[Chapuz]

Frozen, people make stats for this things. Grinding FGs with LS (with 6 upgrades) gets faster  than RoL-Hope, and RoL-Hope is faster than AI4 rush. If you don't belive ME, go to the Statistics subforum under General Discussion and see the UEIs and win rates of different decks.

[theelkspeaks]

Frozen, people make stats for this things. Grinding FGs with LS (with 6 upgrades) gets faster  than RoL-Hope, and RoL-Hope is faster than AI4 rush. If you don't belive ME, go to the Statistics subforum under General Discussion and see the UEIs and win rates of different decks.

This might be true with a sufficiently large sample, but when I played LS briefly, I had a far lower winrate than the statistics suggested I would.  I recognize this is most likely an unlucky sample (both in terms of FGs I faced and in early hands in those matches), but it made me prefer to switch to Silver grinding.