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Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg399368#msg399368
« on: September 25, 2011, 10:06:54 PM »
Here is the awsome semi unupped version of Limitless Speed FG OTK [Upped] [Epic] .
Again, credits for Dragoon's "OTK FG and HB" and Amilir's Flay EM because I based this two decks in theirs.

Slim version:
This version is the fastest and less bad-draws getting. I personally recommend it.
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Possible good modifications: +2 Golden Hourglasses, +1 Time Pendulum, -1 Light Pendulum. This helps you het the 1st Hourglass sooner when the upped ones are quite buried!

Fatty version:
This version might start a bit lower, but as higher win rate against some almost auto-quit FGs of the slim version.
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Fat fat version:
This version can absorb heavy poison and some momentummed damage. Recomended for guys who like being strong.
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It's epicly cool to OTK/OHKO 200 HP guys!
Light dragon + momentum + 2x Rage Elixir + 3 Parallel Universe + Sky Blitz:
[(12 + 1 + 2x6) x 2] x 4 = 25 x 2 x 4 = 50x4 = 200 UNSTOPPABLE ONE TURN DAMAGE.
Play all those cards in that order, in the same turn!!!

It also might work great vs. high HP arena guys without sooo much PC   ;D

Spoiler for Strategies for each FG:
Chaos Lord: Only 2 Steals, Deflags and Unsoppables. You can make him spend them in hourglasses and Sancts before the shields.
Decay: 4 Steals: Make him spend the first 1-2 in hourglasses and even a shield if you can, before playing a Sanctuary. After that, the game is yours. 90% EM (he can play a last-turn Drain life, but it's unlikely.
Destiny: Slow and without PC = 90% win rate and 80% EM. Granted.
Elidnis: Don't try to EM playing the 1st shield as soon as you can unless you have a Hourglass in your board. Then, it's the same as Destiny: 90% win rate.
Ferox: A bit rusher than most of the other FG, maybe you will have to play an early shield. VERY high win rate (70/80%) and EM granted.
Fire Queen: Can be like Ferox or like Destiny, depends how she starts. No problem at all. EM granted.
Hecate:  Only 4 Steals, same as Decay. Just easier because he doesn't drain your precious quanta. EM granted.
Incarnate: Same as... maybe Ferox.
Lionheart: The easiest one. 100% win rate, 80% EM. Deckout him is likely, as he has over 9000 hourglasses.
Miracle: 100% win rate, 100% EM.
Morte: You can handle the poison with the healing. 6 Sanctuaries are not for nothing.
Neptune: Eeeaaassyyy! The only way you don't EM is when he plays a last-turn Shockwave, what is really unlikely.
Osiris: His momentum is nothing compared with your healing, and you can resist some double-Trebuchets turns untill you get the combo.
Paradox: Like Ferox: Fast, but makes no challenge at all.
Scorpio: 1 or 2 early Physalias are a pain without some Sanctuaries. Otherwise, it's like Morte.
Serket: With a normal (not bad) hand and an early shield, he is a piece of cake.

Just awsome for being semi unupped.
  deck     Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]FAT FAT   
  players     GiantFrog   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     32.08%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    106 
  Score/h     n.a.   
  win-loss-(EM)     34-72-(18)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     06:10:43   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
  min/game     03:30   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
      Statmasta™realtec                                                               
  deck     Limitless Speed FG OTK – Fatty Fat   
  players     Amheug-ui Maseuteo   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     32%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    200 
  Score/h     205   
  win-loss-(EM)     64-136-(49)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     15:10:18   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  2506   
  min/game     04:33   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
      Statmasta™realtec                                                               
Remember there are some more skips and matches are fast as hell!
  deck     Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]Slim   
  players     GiantFrog   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     28.16%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    103 
  Score/h     n.a.   
  win-loss-(EM)     29-74-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     03:46:53   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
  min/game     02:12   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
      Statmasta™realtec                                                               
Some Screanies of the slim version:

Destiny
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Elidnis:
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Ferox:
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Incarnate:
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Lionheart:
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Miracle:
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Neptune:
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Paradox:
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Recomended upgrading order:
- Light Dragon, both Rage Elixirs and 3 Hourglasses (as the unupped version).
- Remaining hourglasses
- Time pendulums
- Light pendulums and Sanctuaries
- Shields
- Twin Universes
- Towers and Sky Blitz
- Unstoppable is not worth upgrading at all, as it's impossible to get less than 2 gravity quanta with so many towers.

Try it and post your thoughts!!!
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 01:00:41 AM by Chapuz »
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg399372#msg399372
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 10:14:04 PM »
It's not completely unupped, so you can't use it in unupped formats, but for FG grinding... I don't know. Maybe. What's the win rate compared to Flay Em, Liquid Antimatter, etc.?

Don't bother using it for arena. Everyone and their mother packs 12x Deflag.

Never mind. This kicks the crap out of most of the most popular arena decks (fire stall, speedbow, big fat rainbow, ghostmare) despite the huge amount of PC. Has troubles against:

Very fast rushes (fire rush, some speedbows)
Quanta deprivation (EQ, BH if you can't get up a Sanctuary)
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg399375#msg399375
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 10:19:52 PM »
It's not completely unupped, so you can't use it in unupped formats, but for FG grinding... I don't know. Maybe. What's the win rate compared to Flay Em, Liquid Antimatter, etc.?
It's called unupped because it has 6 or less upped cards.

I couldn't make it fully unupped, as i need the 12 att dragon and both Rage Elixirs to make the 200 damage OTK.

Upped hourglasses makes you draw fast as hell (3 in a 35 card deck, creepy fast)
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg399379#msg399379
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 10:42:58 PM »
It's called unupped because it has 6 or less upped cards.
That's not how it works.

In the FG decks archive Unupped decks can have 6 upped cards because at the time there weren't any good known FG decks that were truly unupped. But if you say unupped, your deck should actually be unupped. The term for this deck should be semi-upped.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg399382#msg399382
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 10:44:31 PM »
It's called unupped because it has 6 or less upped cards.
That's not how it works.

In the FG decks archive Unupped decks can have 6 upped cards because at the time there weren't any good known FG decks that were truly unupped. But if you say unupped, your deck should actually be unupped. The term for this deck should be semi-upped.
Oh ok, done ;)

I am thinking on changing the deck name to "Limitless power, FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic]", what do you say?
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg400673#msg400673
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 03:17:09 PM »
Fatty version came to the unupped deck!!!. This will definitely increase the win rate against normal PC, Momentum, Trebuchet, Lock and Poison Fake Gods and grant EM against non poison / momentum FG (the old version was an auto quit).

Thinking about adding 2-3 more pilars and a Purify to grant EM against Scorpio, Morte, Serket and Elidnis, for those who love Score and Electrum.

EDIT: Allright, I left the OP with the three starting versions so people can say how good/fast each of them are.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg401426#msg401426
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2011, 02:52:53 AM »
I have tried all 3 semi-upped decks. The only one that works is the "fat fat" version. All the others either not have enough mana by the time you get all the cards you need, or spells/poison overwhelms your lack of healing. Pretty good deck overall, around 60-70% win rate with 50-60% EM against the easy gods (except Hecate, Scorpio and Chaos Lord).

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg401445#msg401445
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2011, 04:34:10 AM »
I have tried all 3 semi-upped decks. The only one that works is the "fat fat" version. All the others either not have enough mana by the time you get all the cards you need, or spells/poison overwhelms your lack of healing. Pretty good deck overall, around 60-70% win rate with 50-60% EM against the easy gods (except Hecate, Scorpio and Chaos Lord).
THANKS FOR THE COMMENT!

Each of those decks has some pros and cons:

The slim one is very good for no permanent control FGs, as it's the fastest. The original version had -3 quantum towers +3 light pendulums, what i have been testing, works like charm and guarantees your early arther and late light and time.

The fatty version has some healing and that can work as permanent fodders against low PC like Decay. Otherwise, those (2 or 3 at most) FGs are an auto quit with the slim verison. This version, also can resist some momentum and poison damage versus some gods.

The Fat Fat version is more an unupped version of the upped deck. It's definitely slower than the other 2, but can resist more hits in early game and has much more PC fodders for other FGs. Not even mention the heavy momentum and poison damage absorbing while shielded! Also, when you know you will resist one or two hits, you can do it just to wait for more cards and get another shield (even if you have one in hand).

Every version has it's own pros and cons comparing with the other ones and I am willing people post how do they work to get / make a better, funnier and more awsome deck.

EDIT: slim version modified as the original one was to have needed quanta in time and get much better results.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg401493#msg401493
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2011, 06:20:35 AM »
By the way, I would suggest replacing one/two sanctuaries with purifies in order to have more chances with Scorpion/Serket/Morte.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg401676#msg401676
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2011, 04:39:39 PM »
By the way, I would suggest replacing one/two sanctuaries with purifies in order to have more chances with Scorpion/Serket/Morte.
And grants EM against Elidnis (cuz of ger puffer fishes).

I have to do more tests and see if they really worth a pair of spaces of the fatty and fat fat versions. I will do the upped tests and then see the unupped ones.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg402171#msg402171
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2011, 04:05:22 PM »
i have tried slim version and the fatty one and i have won  my upped deck in a week!!!!!!   8)

+1 for you and keep going with more awesome decks  :D

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg402194#msg402194
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2011, 05:04:39 PM »
My complaint is that the combo needs so many cards at once that it clutters your hand, if you draw them too early.

 

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