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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg502861#msg502861
« Reply #384 on: May 23, 2012, 09:22:14 pm »
Do you think the Retros are still needed if I replace the Bone Walls for :death recluses/dragons? Or in other words, is there a better choice?
Why don't you go retro+BL? There you have more  :death quanta for dragons.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg502863#msg502863
« Reply #385 on: May 23, 2012, 09:24:33 pm »
Do you think the Retros are still needed if I replace the Bone Walls for :death recluses/dragons? Or in other words, is there a better choice?
Why don't you go retro+BL? There you have more  :death quanta for dragons.

That's exactly what I did :) Currently trying the following:

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But I gotta sleep now xD And I think 5 Immo are better. Probably gonna kick out the SoB.

Edit: eventually gonna swap a golem for a new dragon. but i will test this tomorrow ^^
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg504619#msg504619
« Reply #386 on: May 27, 2012, 01:28:43 pm »
Hi everyone :)

So I found this thread long time ago and I think it's a very interesting one.
It uses many different abilities of :water which since all of them need a different element are very cheap. So in fact it's pretty easy to run it just by novas.

I want to share this because I think it might be interesting to see how many doors it opens to very interesting modifications depending on what exactly
you want to focus on.

I e.g. wanted to to have more defense in the deck so I made the following modification:

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I also posted it in that thread and I'll quote the variations I still want to try:
"Twin Universe, probably instead of Pandemonium. Main use to copy enemy creatures since  aren't too strong. Also I'd be able to use it's ability.
Replace steals with SoFo and Poseidon with Discord. Allows more PC and some healing when SoFo turned to BH.
-1 Pandemonium +1 Nymph Tears (or +2 Nymph tears replacing a SN and Pandemonium)
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How would you modify this deck, and why? :D
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg510599#msg510599
« Reply #387 on: June 12, 2012, 07:21:58 pm »
Does anyone like the deck I posted above...? Just curious x)
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg510650#msg510650
« Reply #388 on: June 12, 2012, 10:08:49 pm »
Does anyone like the deck I posted above...? Just curious x)

the waterbow? seems random at first sight, but because i didnt had time to test it properly, not sure how it plays...

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg510900#msg510900
« Reply #389 on: June 13, 2012, 01:17:55 pm »
So, I was thinking about a deck that buffs the oponent's creatures (yeah) and play gravy shield to block their damage, while making slow damage with some creatures. It doesn't work as fine as expected, any ideas to mod this??

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg510907#msg510907
« Reply #390 on: June 13, 2012, 01:25:40 pm »
So, I was thinking about a deck that buffs the oponent's creatures (yeah) and play gravy shield to block their damage, while making slow damage with some creatures. It doesn't work as fine as expected, any ideas to mod this??

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otys should be in that deck, you can eat smaller creatures and prevent the big ones from dealing damage

overdrive would work well with the dragons

armor and basilisk blood is kinda redundant, try BB only, 5 turn delay plus shield block for the rest of the game is way better :P

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg512611#msg512611
« Reply #391 on: June 18, 2012, 08:50:14 pm »
(double post, sorry for that)

Enginners, i had an interesting idea for an OTK deck that in theory could work on FG, HB and pvp

it envolves combining these cards:

-voodo doll
-Unstable Gas
-Mitosis

necessary support cards for the deck to work:

-Feral bonds
-Pandemonium (unnuped)
-Protect artifact

the deck consists of having a field full of dolls using mitosis, while stalling using the bonds. Pandes can be used to make some serious damage, CC and even PC against the other deck. you then start putting protected UGs and then you make some math: 20 dmg per UG plus your 23 dolls taking 1 dmg each = 43 dmg per UG! that means a FG can be beaten using 5 of these, not even counting pandes. the problem with this idea is the quanta balance. While not being a real rainbow, it does use many elements, too many to be simply sustained by towers/pends. i would ask your help in order to build a good prototype for this deck :D (hint: Pandes can really do a good amount of damage by themselves, so you might not need that many UGs to finish the job)

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the deck idea came from a deck Chapuz made a week ago, something like that, in wich he used the pande-doll combo to full extent, being able to kill an oponnent just by using pandes. the UG part was inspired by a match i was having against my own arena deck. i dunno what triggered it, it just struck my head lol

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slow and a bit unstable, but certainly doable in this build
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg512665#msg512665
« Reply #392 on: June 19, 2012, 12:41:16 am »
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(double post, sorry for that)

Enginners, i had an interesting idea for an OTK deck that in theory could work on FG, HB and pvp

it envolves combining these cards:

-voodo doll
-Unstable Gas
-Mitosis

necessary support cards for the deck to work:

-Feral bonds
-Pandemonium (unnuped)
-Protect artifact

the deck consists of having a field full of dolls using mitosis, while stalling using the bonds. Pandes can be used to make some serious damage, CC and even PC against the other deck. you then start putting protected UGs and then you make some math: 20 dmg per UG plus your 23 dolls taking 1 dmg each = 43 dmg per UG! that means a FG can be beaten using 5 of these, not even counting pandes. the problem with this idea is the quanta balance. While not being a real rainbow, it does use many elements, too many to be simply sustained by towers/pends. i would ask your help in order to build a good prototype for this deck :D (hint: Pandes can really do a good amount of damage by themselves, so you might not need that many UGs to finish the job)

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the deck idea came from a deck Chapuz made a week ago, something like that, in wich he used the pande-doll combo to full extent, being able to kill an oponnent just by using pandes. the UG part was inspired by a match i was having against my own arena deck. i dunno what triggered it, it just struck my head lol
Badass idea, must try to build something with it. Too many quanta needed of some elements and too little from others, that is a challenge!

EDIT: It's actually a quanta mess... I was trying to do an OTK with a cloak (maybe 2) and 5 UGs in the hand, play everything and then boom boom. How the holy cow are you planning to win enough  :darkness:life and  :air at the same time without being fragile using adrena damsdels and devourers? xD

EDIT 2: I tried a mitoDoll + adrenaVourerVourer + adrenaDamsdel + immo for the last hit, but it's too unreliable  :-\
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg512695#msg512695
« Reply #393 on: June 19, 2012, 02:37:41 am »
Sorry for the double post!

Based on that AI3 autopoison deck, I wanted to improve that idea. Poison on Doll + poison on the oponent = 2x poison damage.

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My actual deck isn't stable enough and has lots of unused  :death quanta. I tried replacing the Virus for LS but I couldn't fing the right  :death quanta balance for the parasites.

Any ideas to improve it?

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg512733#msg512733
« Reply #394 on: June 19, 2012, 06:11:29 am »
Does anyone like the deck I posted above...? Just curious x)

I like it, especially the fact you include a Turtle Shield and a Poseidon, two of the most underused cards in Elements (despite the fact they're both very good cards IMO)!
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers - Engineer's Workshop https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg512836#msg512836
« Reply #395 on: June 19, 2012, 04:59:41 pm »
i was able to do a rough build on the strategy i mentioned, its still unstable, but doable. if you think you can build a deck around that strategy, post it here!

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