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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508582#msg508582
« Reply #84 on: June 07, 2012, 11:20:46 am »
I guess I'm not doing this the right way because I just went 0/20 in plat. Don't have it really upped, though, and I should probably start my silence chains earlier. However, I feel as if I'm in a complete lack of quanta whenever I get an early nymph, and when I'm not, I don't have the nymph to use.

this deck doesn't work if you don't have it upped.  And in my opinion, it's not worth using until you get 2-3 actual golden nymphs (i.e. not relying on nymph tears).

I don't know what you have upped, but if you don't have the SNs, silences, and towers/pends upped, then going 0/20 sounds entirely possible.  Also, if you have 1 or less actual nymphs, that makes things even more gimmicky.

For the record, I was using the deck in the OP, with unupped nymphs (I do have two of them), silences, mitosis and 1 precog. The way I usually go for new decks when I don't have them fully upped yet is by upping them gradually. It's worked with CCYB, Instosis, PharaSoR, you name it. I guess the unupped silences just hurt too much :(

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508583#msg508583
« Reply #85 on: June 07, 2012, 11:27:51 am »
I guess I'm not doing this the right way because I just went 0/20 in plat. Don't have it really upped, though, and I should probably start my silence chains earlier. However, I feel as if I'm in a complete lack of quanta whenever I get an early nymph, and when I'm not, I don't have the nymph to use.

this deck doesn't work if you don't have it upped.  And in my opinion, it's not worth using until you get 2-3 actual golden nymphs (i.e. not relying on nymph tears).

I don't know what you have upped, but if you don't have the SNs, silences, and towers/pends upped, then going 0/20 sounds entirely possible.  Also, if you have 1 or less actual nymphs, that makes things even more gimmicky.

For the record, I was using the deck in the OP, with unupped nymphs (I do have two of them), silences, mitosis and 1 precog. The way I usually go for new decks when I don't have them fully upped yet is by upping them gradually. It's worked with CCYB, Instosis, PharaSoR, you name it. I guess the unupped silences just hurt too much :(

Unupped Silences are useless in this deck, same for unupped mitosis since it needs 3 SNs.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508667#msg508667
« Reply #86 on: June 07, 2012, 03:27:32 pm »
Yeah, that's one thing the SN nerf has an immediate effect on.  Before when you could spam SN you could get away with unupped silences/mitosis.  Now, unupped needs an extra turn.  And considering this is a speed deck, one turn means a ton.

Also, this deck relies on chaining silences.  You can't do that with unupped silences now.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508671#msg508671
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2012, 03:56:22 pm »
Yeah, that's one thing the SN nerf has an immediate effect on.  Before when you could spam SN you could get away with unupped silences/mitosis.  Now, unupped needs an extra turn.  And considering this is a speed deck, one turn means a ton.

Also, this deck relies on chaining silences.  You can't do that with unupped silences now.

Actually you can't even play unupped silences, because 5 silences costs 15, and can't be played by SNs, upped only 10 so those can be played.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508745#msg508745
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2012, 08:55:36 pm »
I'd like to try this in game, had I had 2 nymphs.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508766#msg508766
« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2012, 10:14:17 pm »
Yeah, that's one thing the SN nerf has an immediate effect on.  Before when you could spam SN you could get away with unupped silences/mitosis.  Now, unupped needs an extra turn.  And considering this is a speed deck, one turn means a ton.

Also, this deck relies on chaining silences.  You can't do that with unupped silences now.

Actually you can't even play unupped silences, because 5 silences costs 15, and can't be played by SNs, upped only 10 so those can be played.

The deck he was playing is the one in the OP, which has 4 silences.  And what you said technically isn't accurate.  If he had 5 silences, he wouldn't be able to play the 5th silence.  Silences 1-4 can still be played.  Chances are he will never reach the situation where not being able to play the last silence costs him the game.

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508801#msg508801
« Reply #90 on: June 08, 2012, 12:20:21 am »
poeple keep mentioning not upping nymphs. why not?

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508811#msg508811
« Reply #91 on: June 08, 2012, 12:36:35 am »
poeple keep mentioning not upping nymphs. why not?
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508812#msg508812
« Reply #92 on: June 08, 2012, 12:39:03 am »
i thought most turneys didnt allow nymphs anyway. but ok, thanks.

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg508835#msg508835
« Reply #93 on: June 08, 2012, 01:49:06 am »
most tournaments don't allow shards.  I don't think nymphs were ever banned by themselves.  Usually they get banned along with a bunch of other cards when following some tournament theme.

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg509030#msg509030
« Reply #94 on: June 08, 2012, 02:48:24 pm »
First,thank you for giving us this deck.Second,I am curious about that trying this with dejavu ? Not that effective,but can we?

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg509115#msg509115
« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2012, 06:07:10 pm »
First,thank you for giving us this deck.Second,I am curious about that trying this with dejavu ? Not that effective,but can we?
Nor effective at all. Shard of readiness doesn't help them. And then you also lose the draw aspect which makes the deck what it is.
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