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Which of the following Shard of Patience Platinum Arena farming decks are the most successful?

Refraction Index
6 (16.7%)
New Old Times
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Swallow
16 (44.4%)
Brave Malignant Ball That Could
5 (13.9%)
SoaPy Wardens
4 (11.1%)

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Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1102984#msg1102984
« on: October 13, 2013, 03:34:05 am »
Since its most recent buff, Shard of Patience has become one of the most powerful cards in Elements.  It is oftentimes used in False God farming decks and Platinum Arena farming decks due to its ability to One Hit Kill opponents with high HP.  To maximize its effect across a wide range of creatures, Shard of Patience is sometimes combined with Fractal and/or Mitosis.  Other times, it is used with creatures whose abilities benefit from the buff (e.g. Otyugh, Scarab and Vanadium Warden).

In this thread, I am compiling a list of the most successful Shard of Patience decks.  I will sort the decks based on Arena Level and FG farming status.  Please post any decks you believe should be added to this list.



Platinum Arena Farming Decks


Refraction Index

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New Old Times

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Swallow

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Brave Malignant Ball that Could

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SoaPy Wardens

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False God Farming Decks


Refraction Index (False God Version)

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New Old Times FG OTK

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The Melancholy Death of Chrysaora

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Gold Farming Decks


Brave Damselfy Blitz That Could

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Brave Old Times That Could

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A Patient Blitz

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Patient Hope Mitosis

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New Old Tosis

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Patient Pestal

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Silver Arena Farming Decks


Snowball Lightning OTK

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Patient Vu

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A Ballsy Rush

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Uncategorized Decks


Malignancy Is A Virtue

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Toxic Singularities

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« Last Edit: October 25, 2013, 10:54:50 pm by laxnut90 »
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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1105248#msg1105248
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 10:30:00 am »
There's one that I use for level 4, when I'm playing for fun, rather than farming.  I've never tried it out farming anything, but I don't imagine it'd do much good beyond Silver.

I call it "Malignancy Is A Virtue".
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Fairly straight forward - Aflatoxin your own Photons, heal yourself with Bonds, have your Shard out until you've got enough oomph to kill the opposition, then kill them.  You can also use Aflatoxin on opposing creatures, and Skull Shield will protect you from the resulting Cells but, as a general rule of thumb, only do this after you've infected one of your own creatures.  The healing from the Bonds will almost always be better than destroying 1 enemy creature.

I've not collected any data on it, but it seems to win most of the time.  Weaknesses, obviously, are Permanent Control and Gravity Shield. 
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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1105251#msg1105251
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 11:05:56 am »
I think your deck will be better using a water mark, switching the water pendulums to bone towers, and replacing the photons with sparks.

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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1105269#msg1105269
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 02:09:26 pm »
i like your gravity nymphs in your version of "swallow", nice. 

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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1105270#msg1105270
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 02:10:54 pm »
There's one that I use for level 4, when I'm playing for fun, rather than farming.  I've never tried it out farming anything, but I don't imagine it'd do much good beyond Silver.

I call it "Malignancy Is A Virtue".
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Fairly straight forward - Aflatoxin your own Photons, heal yourself with Bonds, have your Shard out until you've got enough oomph to kill the opposition, then kill them.  You can also use Aflatoxin on opposing creatures, and Skull Shield will protect you from the resulting Cells but, as a general rule of thumb, only do this after you've infected one of your own creatures.  The healing from the Bonds will almost always be better than destroying 1 enemy creature.

I've not collected any data on it, but it seems to win most of the time.  Weaknesses, obviously, are Permanent Control and Gravity Shield.









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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1105317#msg1105317
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 05:15:25 pm »
There's one that I use for level 4, when I'm playing for fun, rather than farming.  I've never tried it out farming anything, but I don't imagine it'd do much good beyond Silver.

I call it "Malignancy Is A Virtue".
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Fairly straight forward - Aflatoxin your own Photons, heal yourself with Bonds, have your Shard out until you've got enough oomph to kill the opposition, then kill them.  You can also use Aflatoxin on opposing creatures, and Skull Shield will protect you from the resulting Cells but, as a general rule of thumb, only do this after you've infected one of your own creatures.  The healing from the Bonds will almost always be better than destroying 1 enemy creature.

I've not collected any data on it, but it seems to win most of the time.  Weaknesses, obviously, are Permanent Control and Gravity Shield.









theres your deck^

I think the malignent cell+feral bond+SoP strategy is executed best in this deck (sobras are fillers and can f.e. be replaced with sundials, skullbuckler and additional SoPs or fodders):
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(Strategy is to create a singularity and infect it, then cast epinephrine on the resulting malignent cell(will create 4 malignent cells 1st turn))
However this is highly luckdependant and most likely not competitive with the decks in the op.
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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1105484#msg1105484
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 07:48:43 am »
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The reason  I don't use a water mark is to get as much :death quanta as early as possible.  Having the :death mark can mean getting your Aflatoxin played 1 or even 2 turns earlier than if you had a different mark, which can be important for healing.  Playing the Shard is nowhere near as important as playing Aflatoxin.

As for Sparks vs. Photons, I don't see what difference it makes.  The only difference, as far as I can tell is that if you're desperate and you've got a Bond or two but not yet got Aflatoxin or the Shard then you can still play Photons and get healing, which you couldn't with Sparks.

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(Strategy is to create a singularity and infect it, then cast epinephrine on the resulting malignent cell(will create 4 malignent cells 1st turn))
However this is highly luckdependant and most likely not competitive with the decks in the op.

That's an interesting take.  I've got a Malignant Cell deck and I've got a Singularity deck, but I've never tried both together.  I may play this one and see how it goes.

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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1105787#msg1105787
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 10:49:21 pm »
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There's one that I use for level 4, when I'm playing for fun, rather than farming.  I've never tried it out farming anything, but I don't imagine it'd do much good beyond Silver.

I call it "Malignancy Is A Virtue".
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Fairly straight forward - Aflatoxin your own Photons, heal yourself with Bonds, have your Shard out until you've got enough oomph to kill the opposition, then kill them.  You can also use Aflatoxin on opposing creatures, and Skull Shield will protect you from the resulting Cells but, as a general rule of thumb, only do this after you've infected one of your own creatures.  The healing from the Bonds will almost always be better than destroying 1 enemy creature.

I've not collected any data on it, but it seems to win most of the time.  Weaknesses, obviously, are Permanent Control and Gravity Shield.
I have added your deck to the list.   

I personally prefer to use sparks so that Aflatoxin will kill your creature even with an SOP on the table.  A photon with SOP on the table would outrace the Aflatoxin on it.  Also, six photons is probably overkill.  I would recommend running no more than four or five creatures as Aflatoxin fodder.

All things considered, I think the deck has the potential to be a strong farmer due to its mass healing abilities.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2013, 06:14:48 pm »
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I personally prefer to use sparks so that Aflatoxin will kill your creature even with an SOP on the table.  A photon with SOP on the table would outrace the Aflatoxin on it.

I just don't put the Shard out until I've got at least one Cell on the board.  Once that's happened, unless I'm desperate for health, or I think there's immediate danger of my field being killed off (such as the AI having Rain Of Fire), then I save my Aflatoxins for CC.

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Also, six photons is probably overkill.  I would recommend running no more than four or five creatures as Aflatoxin fodder.

Interesting.  What would you replace them with?

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Re: Shard of Patience Decks (Suggestions Welcome) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51719.msg1106054#msg1106054
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2013, 07:40:30 pm »
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Also, six photons is probably overkill.  I would recommend running no more than four or five creatures as Aflatoxin fodder.

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Interesting.  What would you replace them with?

I would recommend adding a third Shard of Patience or, potentially, a situational card such as Purify.
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