Deckbuilding

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Ok, I lied, I find building decks too much fun.

Gen. TheonlyrealBeef vs UTAlan

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4st 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 622 622 622 622 622 7ta 7ta 7tc 7td 7td 7td 8pu

Lt. Wizardcat vs Lt. vagman13

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5ia 5ia 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5us 5uu 5uu 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 7tb 80a 80a 8pm

May the RNG be with you... you'll need it -_-
suxerz vs vinvick3714

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5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5up 5up 5ur 5uu 5uu 5uu 5uu 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 8pu

mrpaper vs catalyzeme

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5bu 5bu 5bu 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5uo 5uo 5ur 5ur 5us 5ut 5ut 5ut 5v2 5v2 5v2 5v2 5v8 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pn

Onizuka vs Spielkind

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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5uo 5uo 5uo 5up 5ur 5ur 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 8pj

Salvage:
Theonlyrealbeef:
Wizardcat: 1 Fractal, 5 Nova
suxerz: 3 Horned Frog, 3 Cockatrice
Onizuka: 6 Nova

Discarding:
Mithcairion: Everything but 2 Liquid Shadow, 1 Dusk Mantle, 2 Black Dragon
mrpaper: Everything but 3 Drain Life, 2 Vampire Stiletto

Conversion:
11 Nova, 2 Miracle, 1 Reflective Shield

To:
5 Obsidian Pillar, 9 Dark Pendulum

[suxerz]

Taking account the salvage/discard/convert (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26522.0.html) and minus all the cards for the decks, these are the cards that left in our vault:

	Fractal	1
	Obsidian Pillar	1
	Dark Pendulum	18
	Black Nymph	1
	Darkness Mark	1

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Round 8
Decks:

by TheonlyrealBeef

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5ia 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5us 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 61q 8pm

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5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5up 5up 5ur 5uu 5uu 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 8pu

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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5uo 5uo 5up 5uu 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pj

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5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pn

Matches:
Gen. TheonlyrealBeef vs Lt. kevkev60614
Lt. Wizardcat vs deuce22
suxerz vs YoungSot
Onizuka vs Dogg

Salvage:
TheonlyrealBeef: discard everything but 3 Minor Vampire, 2 Nightfall, 2 Steal
Wizardcat: salvage 3 Discord, 3 ???
suxerz: salvage 3 Adrenaline, 3 ???
Onizuka: salvage 3 Antimatter, 3 ???
mrpaper: discard everything but 3 Minor Vampire, 3 Adrenaline
Event card: 10 Dark Pendulum

[Onizuka]

There's not much to salvage from Sux's win...either we convert the rest or take 3 more Dimension shields IMO. Just dimension shields is strong against teams that don't have PC (while most of them have been eliminated). Against Earth maybe, stretch a little towards Aether since we're bound to see bonebolt at least once this round.

From my win...we could take BB for some CC that could fit in our grabbow. Possibly deflags, since we're running out of steals and PC is useful.

From Wizcats...still not much else. If we still had all our DLs, we could have created somewhat of a entropy/darkness stall.

Not much to salvage for us

[mrpaper]

I have real big concerns about the adrenavamps deck... the chance of it working with 0 cloaks is almost none since any cc destroy the deck.  It seems that with what we have left we must make a deck like this, but I'd find ways to have at least 2 cloaks.  That could be having only 5 vampires to adren or removing 1 nightfall and maybe 1 dusk if we play agaginst aether.  Also I wouldnt play it against fire since deflag is so likely.  Aether doesnt seem like much of a good option either because DS will prevent much of the damage even with steal but otherwise It leaves us with Torb playing it against death which is the game we are supposed to win (It's wonders if they play bonewall (really unlikely) automatic loss if they play plague).

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Some decks probably aren't suited for any matchup, but this is just the only way I can see to field 4 proper decks, and pray we get a proper matchup :d
Haven't spied Plagues in Death's winning decks from last round, so they may very well have none left, or none they'd use against us (though they have Lightnings).

[suxerz]

Yeah.. we're running out of good options. Though I would prefer that we won't use the paragon vs aether. On the other hand, using it vs fire is too risky and we won't be able to use the upgrade advantage much if Torb use it vs death.

by suxerz

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5uu 5uu 606 606 606 606 606 606 7tb 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf 8pn

by suxerz

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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vp 4vp 4vp 5uk 5uk 5up 5uu 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pj

by suxerz

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58r 595 595 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5uo 5uo 5up 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 779 779 779 7tb 7tf 7tf 8pm

by suxerz

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4vh 4vn 4vn 55t 595 5c7 5f6 5i6 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5up 5up 5ur 5uu 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 61r 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 77g 77g 8pj

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Yeah.. we're running out of good options. Though I would prefer that we won't use the paragon vs aether. On the other hand, using it vs fire is too risky and we won't be able to use the upgrade advantage much if Torb use it vs death.

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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vp 4vp 4vp 5uk 5uk 5up 5uu 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pj

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58r 595 595 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5uo 5uo 5up 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 779 779 779 7tb 7tf 7tf 8pm

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4vh 4vn 4vn 55t 595 5c7 5f6 5i6 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5up 5up 5ur 5uu 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 61r 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 77g 77g 8pj

I'll agree that those decks are random and weird :P
First one kind of seems to waste Novas;
Same with second, and Pandes seem to be counterproductive with that many creatures;
Third: I know Oni wanted a Stone Dragon deck, but...;
Last: Rather heavy on Darkness.

Upgrade advantage for me with Paragon vs Death is definitely there, 2 upgraded Dragons, 1 Dagger (so I heard you liked Lightnings, though Wizcat could do this too vs Aether, them Lightning lubbers) 3 Pendulums.

[mrpaper]

Playing paragon  vs aether ain't ideal since we can give then more good cards... but at this point, we gotta think that we need to field a deck that might beat em, losing to em with any deck means losing war so i'm more thne fine with using this deck against em.  And Ifwe are to keep decks like this, I HIGHLY suggest guys that u go along with my suggestion of having cloaks in the adrenavamps deck, remove 1 adren + 1 vampire is simple and will make an efficient deck.  Having 6 vampire would have mean a bit more power, but getting crushed by anything they can throw at us.

[Onizuka]

I'm with paper on having cloaks. While 2 cloaks aren't that much, they're extremely vital. All our opponents are known to have CC. The deck will most likely lose without that protection.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Matches:
Gen. TheonlyrealBeef vs Lt. kevkev60614

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5ul 5ul 5up 5up 5uu 5uu 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 7t5 7t5 7tb 7um 7um 7um 8pu

Lt. Wizardcat vs deuce22

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5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 5v2 5v2 606 606 606 606 606 7t4 7tb 7um 8pn

suxerz vs YoungSot

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5ia 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5us 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 61q 8pm

Onizuka vs Dogg

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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5uo 5uo 5up 5uu 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pj

Salvage:
TheonlyrealBeef: discard everything but 3 Minor Vampire, 2 Nightfall, 2 Steal
Wizardcat: salvage 3 Discord, 3 Nova
suxerz: salvage 3 Adrenaline, 3 Nova
Onizuka: salvage 3 Antimatter, 3 Dimensional Shield
mrpaper: discard everything but 2 Minor Vampire, 2 Adrenaline,  2 Cloak
Event card: 10 Dark Pendulum

[suxerz]

Just one minor correction:

suxerz: salvage 3 Adrenaline, 3 Dimensional Shield 3 Nova
Onizuka: salvage 3 Antimatter, 3 Nova 3 Dimensional Shield

Everything else looks good 

Taking account the salvage/discard/convert (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26796.msg364516#msg364516) and minus all the cards for the updated decks (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26965.0.html), these are the cards that left in our vault:

	Lighting	1
	Dimensional Shield	3
	Fractal	1
	Obsidian Pillar	3
	Liquid Shadow	3
	Gargoyle	5
	Dark Pendulum	26
	Black Nymph	1
	Darkness Mark	1
	Nova	6
	Purify	1