Sponge | Sponge

[rickerd]

What about adrenaline?

[TheManuz]

Cool, this could power some interesting bolts-deck!
Make one of these grow + parallel universe!
Wonderful card, can be powerful but not OP.
But please, give it a cost in . At least 1 !

[eaglgenes101]

I put in a poll.

What about adrenaline?

Per turn, not per attack.

[Daguerreo]

I put in a poll.

Why just don't wait for result of your poll and discussions about balance?

[eaglgenes101]

Edited the card.

[OldTrees]

I put in a poll.

What about adrenaline?

Per turn, not per attack.

Adrenaline gives additional turns. See Ray of Light.

[eaglgenes101]

I put in a poll.

What about adrenaline?

Per turn, not per attack.

Adrenaline gives additional turns. See Ray of Light.

Adrenalined scorpions don't deal poison every attack. Likewise for the sponge's ability.

[Shantu]

I don't think the change was needed, nor the lack of synergy with Adrenaline.
You need to devote your deck to life to use adrenaline; you need a card space for the spell and then you need the quanta to play it. You will most likely have better targets for Adrenaline, like a crawler or a frog. It would be useful only to reach max water quanta fairly quick.. but what do you do with it? You can't bolt to death since the introduction of the quanta cap, so it should not be overpowered.
One interesting strategy is mixing adrenacrawler and adrenasponge. Coupled with ice bolts, it could be an interesting rush (crawler softens you up then ice bolt for the kill) - however, I am quite sure it would not be overpoweringly fast.

And why keep the unupped sponge at 0 cost? With a cost of 1 you need to have water production already to play it. In a duo, for example, this means either your mark or a few pillars/pends needs to be devoted to water. Without a cost, you could have a lot more freedom when building decks with Sponge, like having it as the only water production in your deck.

Most likely missed something I wanted to say.

[eaglgenes101]

I don't think the change was needed, nor the lack of synergy with Adrenaline.
You need to devote your deck to life to use adrenaline; you need a card space for the spell and then you need the quanta to play it. You will most likely have better targets for Adrenaline, like a crawler or a frog. It would be useful only to reach max water quanta fairly quick.. but what do you do with it? You can't bolt to death since the introduction of the quanta cap, so it should not be overpowered.

And why keep the unupped sponge at 0 cost? With a cost of 1 you need to have water production already to play it. In a duo, for example, this means either your mark or a few pillars/pends devoted to water. Without a cost, you could have a lot more freedom when building decks with Sponge, having it as the only water production in your deck.

Most likely missed something I wanted to say.

What? It's the upped that has no cost, not the unupped. In a water deck, unupped sponge needs a 1 seed to produce more, but the upped can go from turn 0 without help.

And as for adrenaline, 4* quanta production for just 4 seems like way too much for some. I won't list examples, you go do that yourself.

[OldTrees]

I put in a poll.

What about adrenaline?

Per turn, not per attack.

Adrenaline gives additional turns. See Ray of Light.

Adrenalined scorpions don't deal poison every attack. Likewise for the sponge's ability.

Venom triggers on the 1st and 3rd adrenal attacks.

[thanata]

And why keep the unupped sponge at 0 cost? With a cost of 1 you need to have water production already to play it. In a duo, for example, this means either your mark or a few pillars/pends needs to be devoted to water. Without a cost, you could have a lot more freedom when building decks with Sponge, like having it as the only water production in your deck.

What? It's the upped that has no cost, not the unupped. In a water deck, unupped sponge needs a 1 seed to produce more, but the upped can go from turn 0 without help.

I think what Shantu was saying with that is that non-water decks could abuse the upped version's zero cost and use mass water quanta with little drawback. Thus making rainbow decks even more overpowered? I could be wrong on what he meant; I'm not him.

[Shantu]

And why not keep the unupped sponge at 0 cost? With a cost of 1 you need to have water production already to play it. In a duo, for example, this means either your mark or a few pillars/pends needs to be devoted to water. Without a cost, you could have a lot more freedom when building decks with Sponge, like having it as the only water production in your deck.

What? It's the upped that has no cost, not the unupped. In a water deck, unupped sponge needs a 1 seed to produce more, but the upped can go from turn 0 without help.

I think what Shantu was saying with that is that non-water decks could abuse the upped version's zero cost and use mass water quanta with little drawback. Thus making rainbow decks even more overpowered? I could be wrong on what he meant; I'm not him.

Damn, I was tired. I forgot to put a 'not' there...