Rejuvenation | Rejuvenation

[OldTrees]

This is a decent idea, but dont you think it overshadows liquid shadow a little bit?

Liquid shadow pretty much does the same thing, give a creature the power to heal but with extra downsides, like poison damage per turn, healing from LS can be prevented by shields, sundial, and has the disadvantage of antimatter as well. This card has the upside of being used as a permanent lobo as well? I think it deserves a 2 cost increase to keep it in balance with the cards already in the game.


I also think its use for your own creatures is being overlooked for balancing as well. In the unupped environment, adrenstaves is a decent deck but has the downsides of being a duo and fragile considering it needs the animate weapon and the staff to work. If you made an adrenafrogs with this, it would be mono, and you not have to wait for animates to play staffs.

Liquid Shadow and Rejuvenation would split the "teach healing" niche based on high/low attack. They each have access to other niches like hard CC/PC.

I noticed the higher cost mono variant of adrenstaves. I noticed the lobotomy of Dusk Shield.
I feel both cases are balanced.

I still don't get how you think it is balanced if there is already a card in the game that does the "same" thing with many more down sides and less uses and that card cost 1 more .

These are my reasons. I have always maintained that I can err.
1) I would prefer to give a creature Vampire than give it Regeneration regardless of who controlled the creature.
2) The potential versatility issue from my perspective is less about balance and more about dominance.
3) Hard CC and Lobo PC are about equal in scope and they both share healing and Lobo CC.
4) Repetition issues are orthogonal to balance issues.

[Hyroen]

This truly shows genuine Card Creator inspiration. This in my opinion truly deserves to not only be part of the Card Ideas but part of the game.

Keep following this path, the Legit one. ^_^

EDIT: +karma.

[the_unknown]

i'd love to use this card if it was put in!

[Legit]

Ah, so this card will not remove Damage Reduction nor will it remove the Damage done by a weapon. However it will remove any and all abilities on said permanents.

As far as versatility goes, yes, it is both PC, CC, and it can be beneficial to the user. However, it is not as effective in all areas. It does not destroy a shield or weapon, so the DR and damage remains. It does not destroy a creature, so the creature's damage is not nullified. Additionally, if used on an opponent's card, your opponent will regenerate 5 HP per turn. Basically, this card DOES have extreme flexibility but it is not as effective as other cards such as Deflag or Lightning, and it gives a small benefit to the opponent when used. Based on this I think the card is balanced.

I agree that this may overshadow Adrenastaff, but a Druidic Staff also has 7 HP and is less vulnerable to CC than an Adrenaline'd Giant Frog that this card is used on. There are pros and cons.

After all this, whether you think this card is OP, too strong, or balanced, I think we can all agree that Life needs a buff, there are no Life cards in the top 30 most popular cards (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,34072.0.html). Plus it's the least favorite element (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,34288.0.html). This card can give Life a chance for redemption.

And again, thanks to all for the positive feedback 

[moomoose]

while i agree that there are benefits given to the opponent when this is used as pc/cc, but that would be true if this were strictly a pc or strictly a cc as well, so this is not so much a reason why this should be both simultaneously.  agreed, life needs some love, but it doesnt all have to come in one card. if this were to be placed in game, i would hope it would be restricted to permanents and find another means of implementing a cc card for life.

[The_Mormegil]

I think this one is the best card I has seen in a while. I love it. And as others have done, +rep and 5 stars rating, I'll put this on my Shelf in the new IF boutique (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,34355.0.html) ('cause advertisement for that project is always nice). I hope this goes into the game, really.

[Thalas]

just alternative art

[moomoose]

nice art

[Legit]

That's pretty awesome, Thalas. It's perfect for this card, I'll add it and give you credit. Thanks for replacing my mediocre, unfitting art as well.

[Xenocidius]

You know, I think this is the fastest card to have ever made it to the Armory, having won both polls while it was still new in them.

Congratulations, Legit, for an amazing idea. Here's hoping for this one to get into the Reliquary!

[Chapuz]

Seems Legit.

[oblivion1212]

new addition to adrefrogs... 

pretty art + PC/CC/Regen ==>  8)

also, even though almost everyone said so already, i'll still point this out..
Seems legit