Fenghuang | Fenghuang

[blahs15]

That seems like it would be a bit overpowered.

However I would love to see users use it in a deck with SoFree, and then fail to realize that they can't target their own air creatures. >.<

I do not see how OP it is because the cost needed is very, very high. SoFre users can target their own creatures without fear of dodge.

really? I could've sworn that I'd seen.. or at least heard of someone complaining their buff was dodged because of a SoFree...
Maybe I just imagined it.

[ZephyrPhantom]

It took a year for this card to start from as a rather-bland passive effect and become the flavorful card that now sits in the Armory. Here's to the Community's Efforts.

Thanks everyone who has supported Fenghuang. If I could get your support one last time, I'd love to see this card in the game to show how much we've built upon ETG.

Once again, keep up the support.

[Rutarete]

To the game!

[Annele]

Dear Zanz,
Add this to the game.
Amen.

[TheManuz]

Dear Zanz,
Add this to the game.
Amen.

To the game!

To the game!

[cometbah]

The 'bounce' mechanic is interesting. However, I find that I cannot get past my dislike for the thematic problems / oriental flavour of the card:

1) 'Fenghuang' is merely Mandarin for 'Phoenix', and we already have a Phoenix. It is also not an English word (not even as a loan word), and that is problematic in an English game.

2) To what concept does 'Ren' refer?

3) The name for the ability ('bounce') is not thematically connected to the card in any way (unless it is connected to 'Ren', the meaning of which I do not yet know).

Also, is there a particular reason why it is  ?

[OldTrees]

The 'bounce' mechanic is interesting. However, I find that I cannot get past my dislike for the thematic problems / oriental flavour of the card:

1) 'Fenghuang' is merely Mandarin for 'Phoenix', and we already have a Phoenix. It is also not an English word (not even as a loan word), and that is problematic in an English game.

2) To what concept does 'Ren' refer?

3) The name for the ability ('bounce') is not thematically connected to the card in any way (unless it is connected to 'Ren', the meaning of which I do not yet know).

Also, is there a particular reason why it is  ?

The name for the creature (Fenghuang) and the ability (Ren) was added afterwards. Do you have better names?

The theme of the card is providing a soft protection to creatures that is related to movement. (aka bouncing the creature instead of it dying) I think this explains why it is Air.

[moomoose]

bounce tends to have a silly connotation, there is probably a better term out there for its effect, but it would probably lend itself to being a life or light ability to make it a duo card rather than the mono card that is designed.

[ZephyrPhantom]

2) To what concept does 'Ren' refer?

For reference:

I would call the active ability "Ren".
Ren is the virtue of benevolence, charity, and humanity.

I'd also like an alternative name for "bounce", but nothing is coming to my mind right now.

This week i'll see if i come up with something for the art. There are some pictures (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fenghuang) on Wikimedia Commons.

bounce tends to have a silly connotation, there is probably a better term out there for its effect, but it would probably lend itself to being a life or light ability to make it a duo card rather than the mono card that is designed.

For mechanical balance, Ren should be kept an ability to allow it to be used in mono decks IMHO.

Ren (or Rén) (Chinese: 仁; pinyin: rén; Wade–Giles: jen) is the Confucian virtue denoting the good feeling a virtuous human experiences when being altruistic. 仁 is exemplified by a normal adult's protective feelings for children. It is considered the inward expression of Confucian ideals.
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The single ideogram Rén is a composite of two distinct common Hanzi, 人 (Man, a man, a person ) and 二 (two), with 人 assuming its common form inside another character, to which various interpretations have been assigned. One often hears that Rén means "how two people should treat one another." While such folk etymologies are common in discussions of Chinese characters, they often are as misleading as they are entertaining. In the case of Rén - usually translated as "benevolence" or "humaneness" - Humaneness is Human-ness, the essence of being human. For Confucius the interaction of completely dependent infant and caring parent is the most emotionally charged human interaction, “To love a thing means wanting it to live…”.[2] The Way of humaneness is human interaction and through shared experience knowing one’s family. “Fan Chi asked about humaneness. The Master said it is loving people. Fan Chi asked about wisdom. The Master said it is knowing people”.[3] In other words, human love and interaction is the source of humaneness, the source of the human self. Another common interpretation of the graphical elements is Man or a man connecting Heaven and Earth.

I think we could call the 'Bounce' ability 'Evasion' instead.
In hindsight 'Ren' is very - sounding. I think we need a clearer explanation why this name fits . If not the ability needs to be given a more appropriate name.

[moomoose]

that seems like a little bit of a cop out, it would be nice if every card could be used as a mono of its own element in the same sense.

[ZephyrPhantom]

that seems like a little bit of a cop out, it would be nice if every card could be used as a mono of its own element in the same sense.

Yeah, it was a bit of a thoughtless remark that I typed too quickly.  My apologies.

I could probably think of a bunch of better reasons without saying it needs to be mono. such as:
*SoFree defines Air as the evasive element - effect has difficulty fitting into other elements as a result (yes, protecting creatures is / in nature, but Light and Aether deal with guaranteed protection as opposed to evasion.)
*Fenghuang could be using whirlwinds to displace creatures
*Impact of a spell creatures a shockwave that pushes the creature back instead of killing it
*Air has great creature offense but lacked in creature defense until SoFree came along
*Less elements involved = less quanta to splash in a UG deck with creatures
*This + Dragonfly + OE becomes an anti-deckout method - most elements won't be able to replicate this combo with their 'quanta creature' (RoL comes closest but only works upped.)
*etc...

[OldTrees]

The original (and current) theme of the bounce passive skill is that the creature is able to retreat before dying. This improved maneuverability is granted to the creature using  because Air is the element most associated with maneuverability.