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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg379866#msg379866
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2011, 03:42:43 pm »
The wording needs a little work, but I love electricity being an  :aether thing. It would counter fractal spam nicely.

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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg383562#msg383562
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2011, 07:26:50 pm »
I feel the cost is a tiny bit too high, but it might just be me. Does anyone think it would be OP at 7 | 6?
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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg383764#msg383764
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2011, 05:36:26 am »
This is just a suggestion, but the name 'Chain Lightning' seems to better fit the card's theme. Maybe that's just me though.

  Aside from that, lovin' the idea.

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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg383768#msg383768
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2011, 06:02:26 am »
I do think it would be better if it was non-targeted (i.e., a random initial creature is selected). Then it would be slightly less powerful, as well as just plain cool to cast.
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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg385683#msg385683
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2011, 06:44:14 am »
so, does this basically mean insta-kill for people who manage to fractal + chimera armagios?  :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

great card... i see it doesn't really screw up  :fire though (1 phoenix hit = poof, goodbye 8- :aether )XD

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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg386265#msg386265
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2011, 03:14:08 pm »
This card sucks for gravity(just imagine all the splash they would take on their heavy creatures).

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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg396655#msg396655
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2011, 11:30:25 am »
I don't know, this is very chaotic...
If i understood well, the lightining does 1 damage and then jumps to a new target (chosen from ONLY opponent creatures + the opponent itself)
Let's suppose the opponent has 1 massive dragons in play, at full 30 hp.
Arc Lightning deals 1 damage to the dragon, then do a random jump. Since there is only 1 valid target, it will choose the opponent.
It gives 1 damage to the new target and then do another jump. Then it will choose the dragon again.
So, if the dragon has 30hp and the player has less hp than the dragon (like 29 HP),  sure the opponent will die!

Let's use 2 Basilisk Blood on a photon: you can kill an opponent with 40HP.

Unless i misunderstood the mechanic, this is definitely OP.

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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg396779#msg396779
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2011, 03:33:55 pm »
I don't know, this is very chaotic...
If i understood well, the lightining does 1 damage and then jumps to a new target (chosen from ONLY opponent creatures + the opponent itself)
Let's suppose the opponent has 1 massive dragons in play, at full 30 hp.
Arc Lightning deals 1 damage to the dragon, then do a random jump. Since there is only 1 valid target, it will choose the opponent.
It gives 1 damage to the new target and then do another jump. Then it will choose the dragon again.
So, if the dragon has 30hp and the player has less hp than the dragon (like 29 HP),  sure the opponent will die!

Let's use 2 Basilisk Blood on a photon: you can kill an opponent with 40HP.

Unless i misunderstood the mechanic, this is definitely OP.
It's very strong against big creatures. On the other side, if you are against rol/hope, it's very up.
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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg397064#msg397064
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2011, 11:02:54 pm »
So... This + Oty = kill an army of massive dragons? I like it! Can be OP or UP depending on the oponent's creatures (can kill a massive dragon or a RoL).
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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg397558#msg397558
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2011, 11:52:28 pm »
I hold my stand saying this is far too op.
It is a guarenteed kill with splash damage.
Currently the only sure kill requires a 2 card combo(freeze and shockwave).
This is waaay more potent other than the fact that you wont always hit your desired target.
I hold my opinion that this should have a limited number of chains.
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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg397559#msg397559
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2011, 11:59:26 pm »
I hold my stand saying this is far too op.
It is a guarenteed kill with splash damage.
Currently the only sure kill requires a 2 card combo(freeze and shockwave).
This is waaay more potent other than the fact that you wont always hit your desired target.
I hold my opinion that this should have a limited number of chains.
It counts your opponent too, so it can take a few turns for the RNG to stop firing potshots at your opponent and kill that last creature on the field.

It's powerful, but it's compensated by:
1) There are more efficient alternatives (e.g. Lightning kills things ASAP for a much better cost and doesn't take two or more turns, Fire Bolt has a much better time stalling and then blasting the opponent also for less quantum).
2)It requires a small group of creatures to be around to be actually effective. Larger Groups/Creatures with High HP/Swarm decks/Creatureless/Mono-Aether decks can arguably laugh this card off even if you play several copies.

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Re: Arc Lightning | Arc Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29658.msg397654#msg397654
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2011, 03:01:18 am »
from your response you seem to be under teh impression this this effect occurs per turn.
It's instant, everything happens at once.
Now lets take a very general and probably extreme case situation...
You're playing an unupped life rush and the opponent has five cockatrice out.
The 2 extreme cases are as follows.
Becasue the spell jumps we will asume the same monster will not be hit twice in a row.
Low extremity: A single cockatrice takes the first and every other hit=4 dmg to killed cockatrice +3 to other cockatrice = 7dmg.
High extremity: The spell bounces a large number of times(the most possible w/o killing till the end) 4 dmg to killed cockatrice +3 to others x 4 others = 4 + 12 = 16 dmg.


Now of course this is a limited case and doesn't really show most probable results. But I can't shake the fact that this card has the "potential" to kill a high powered creature while reducing everything else to 1 HP.  In most cases lightning would probably be more effective(lower cost, more dependable dmg) but for a player who simply desires to wreak havoc...
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