Zero | Zero

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NAME: Zero ELEMENT: Aether COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 3 | 7 TEXT: Gains +1/-1 for each creature played (cannot kill Zero). : Reset - set Zero's ATK and HP to 5 after it attacks.	NAME: Zero ELEMENT: Aether COST: 6 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5 | 7 TEXT: Gains +1/-1 for each creature played (cannot kill Zero). : Reset - set Zero's ATK and HP to 6 after it attacks.

ART: patchx94 IDEA: patchx94 NOTES: V3: 5 , passive cannot kill Zero, reset works after Zero attacks V2: 5 random V1: 5 , gains +1/-1 for each creature played (opponent's included). Reset: Set Zero's ATK and HP to 5. A semi-remake of one of my old cards: Z | Z (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14576.0). A "creature played" is a creature card that is played from hand. The first ability is a passive ability. The second ability is an active ability. It is not removed upon use. SERIES:

[rickerd]

Looks cool.
Aether need some more targatable creatures.
But I honestly don't really like the picture but that's my problem.
It doesn't seem it has much weakness.
Maybe you can make one which does the same with permanents, and one for spells

[OldTrees]

Way too fragile/expensive.

Why is this Aether? (General question covering name, ability 1 and ability 2)

[The_Mormegil]

Way too fragile/expensive.

Notice the :other cost... The upped is a bit broken when played in a rainbow.

[Pineapple]

Way too fragile/expensive.

Changed to random-cost, is it too cheap now?

Why is this Aether? (General question covering name, ability 1 and ability 2)

Name: Zero. If Time is Infinity, and Aether is the opposite of Time, then Aether is nothing (real/physical), or Zero.
Ability 1: The concept of Zero isn't inherently the concept of a creature. As more (real/physical) creatures are played, Zero tends more towards its nature (nothingness), but also becomes better at mimicking (another Aether theme) as your average creature (one with high attack).
Ability 2: The second ability is necessary to balance the card; Aether doesn't need another Spark.

[Pineapple]

Way too fragile/expensive.

Notice the :other cost... The upped is a bit broken when played in a rainbow.

It used to cost the same numbers for when he posted.
An easier-to-balance mechanic that I'm thinking about is:

Gains +1/-1 for each creature played (cannot kill Zero).
: Reset - set Zero's ATK and HP to 5 after it attacks.

Obviously, the cost wouldn't be 5 random. Comments?

[OldTrees]

Way too fragile/expensive.

Changed to random-cost, is it too cheap now?

That was a drastic shift (~3 worth). I would have to say it is more balanced than 5 . However now I have conflicting intuitions about its balance. Time for math.

Fractal:
5|6 + 10 |9 + 30 |36 (Played like Fractal Other not Fractal Aether. Hmm)
42|56 attack with 1-7 hp. Playing a creature effectively kills the weakest. If the strongest is lost to CC it can be replaced by playing a creature.
Yeah it feels cheap now. Based on the strength of my opinions I would guess at a 3 /7 casting cost. If you change the ability so it reduces the hp to 0 but does not kill the Zero then the cost should be higher. Maybe even back to 5 /9 .

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[OldTrees]

Note: A creature with 0 hp will die after it attacks.

[Pineapple]

Note: A creature with 0 hp will die after it attacks.

Yup, the change in the active ability is so that Zero isn't completely invincible against non-ability/spell-CC decks.

[Brontos]

Like the creature by itself.
But, I don't get the name concept. (And I've done a philosophy/mathematics high school university...) :p

[Pineapple]

Like the creature by itself.
But, I don't get the name concept. (And I've done a philosophy/mathematics high school...) :p

Name: Zero. If Time is Infinity, and Aether is the opposite of Time, then Aether is nothing (real/physical), or Zero.
Ability 1: The concept of Zero isn't inherently the concept of a creature. As more (real/physical) creatures are played, Zero tends more towards its nature (nothingness), but also becomes better at mimicking (another Aether theme) as your average creature (one with high attack).
Ability 2: The second ability is necessary to balance the card; Aether doesn't need another Spark.