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Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1034002#msg1034002
« on: January 20, 2013, 09:03:59 pm »
NAME:
Volcano
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
5 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 2
TEXT:
:fire :fire : Erupt (Sacrifice Card)
All creatures take damage equal to this card's health.
NAME:
Volcano
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 2
TEXT:
:fire :fire : Erupt (Sacrifice Card)
All creatures take damage equal to this card's health.

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NOTES:
An AoE CC card that can turn into a board clearer if used correctly. Synergizes with in and out of element buffs cards like Plate Armor and Blessing.

Creatures with Quintessence will not be damaged. (Quintessence will not stop sacrifice effects.) If Cloak is present it is destroyed.
SERIES:

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NAME:
Volcano
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
5 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 2
TEXT:
:fire :fire : Erupt
Sacrifice Volcano :  All creatures take damage equal to Volcano’s HP.
NAME:
Volcano
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 2
TEXT:
:fire :fire : Erupt
Sacrifice Volcano :  All creatures take damage equal to Volcano’s HP.

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IDEA:
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NOTES:
An AoE CC card that can turn into a board clearer if used correctly. Synergizes with in and out of element buffs cards like Plate Armor and Blessing.

Creatures with Quintessence will not be damaged. (Quintessence will not protect Volcano.) If Cloak is present it is destroyed.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: January 30, 2013, 09:25:12 pm by Zblader »

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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1034003#msg1034003
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 09:06:01 pm »
Posting to keep track, you already know my thoughts on this, and I have no new ones at the moment.
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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1034067#msg1034067
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 01:51:28 am »
I like it... but it is a creature??? if so.. plate armor,blessing,chaos power.. ecc ecc... and BOOOOM!!!!

and that can be kinda OP.. potentially so much stronger than rain of fire
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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1034676#msg1034676
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 09:20:55 am »
Mm... Basilisk Blood.

Also, in order to be parallel to in-game cards...

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All creatures take damage equal to this card's health.

That should work as an alternative wording.

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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1034830#msg1034830
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 10:05:37 pm »
Could be a little to powerful in conjunction with voodoo dolls + BB.
Wipe field AND massive damage to opponent. Combo is fairly easily powered by mark pend and immolate.

I do love the concept ... but then, who doesn't love VOLCANOES! ... unless maybe you live in Pompei
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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1035899#msg1035899
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2013, 04:33:03 am »
Could be a little to powerful in conjunction with voodoo dolls + BB.
Wipe field AND massive damage to opponent. Combo is fairly easily powered by mark pend and immolate.
Possibly, but keep in mind that killing a Voodoo Doll with lethal damage means the damage won't be redirected (a BB'd Volcano will always deal lethal damage to a normal Doll). It's a clever build-around strategy though if you can somehow get around Basilisk Blood's 6-turn delay on a Volcano.
I do love the concept ... but then, who doesn't love VOLCANOES! ... unless maybe you live in Pompei
Thanks! :)

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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1035900#msg1035900
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 04:35:53 am »
Could be a little to powerful in conjunction with voodoo dolls + BB.
Wipe field AND massive damage to opponent. Combo is fairly easily powered by mark pend and immolate.
Possibly, but keep in mind that killing a Voodoo Doll with lethal damage means the damage won't be redirected (a BB'd Volcano will always deal lethal damage to a normal Doll). It's a clever build-around strategy though if you can somehow get around Basilisk Blood's 6-turn delay on a Volcano.
I do love the concept ... but then, who doesn't love VOLCANOES! ... unless maybe you live in Pompei
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You'd also have BB for Voodoo.  Also, Adren would quicken it, but Quads...

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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1036407#msg1036407
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 09:58:51 pm »
Could be a little to powerful in conjunction with voodoo dolls + BB.
Wipe field AND massive damage to opponent. Combo is fairly easily powered by mark pend and immolate.
Possibly, but keep in mind that killing a Voodoo Doll with lethal damage means the damage won't be redirected (a BB'd Volcano will always deal lethal damage to a normal Doll). It's a clever build-around strategy though if you can somehow get around Basilisk Blood's 6-turn delay on a Volcano.
I do love the concept ... but then, who doesn't love VOLCANOES! ... unless maybe you live in Pompei
Thanks! :)

You'd also have BB for Voodoo.  Also, Adren would quicken it, but Quads...
True; the combo becomes Voodoo Doll + Basilisk Blood + Volcano + Basilisk Blood + More Dolls/BB [+ Adrenaline (?)] vs. Voodoo Doll + Basilisk Blood + Gravity Pull + Twin Universe.

It seems like a matter of whether you want to a) Deal more damage vs. b) Protect yourself from creatures.


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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1036742#msg1036742
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2013, 12:34:22 am »
Another issue to consider is SoP... That could lead to some very nasty volcanoes after a while.

I will give it this, it will make life interesting. Voodoo bows could become very ugly indeed.
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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1036820#msg1036820
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2013, 07:01:43 am »
Quint won't protect Volcano?
1. Quinted creatures can't be RoF'd. So it shouldn't be Volcano'd either.
2. Just like UG, you should be able to quint it, but it will be destroyed anyway when used.
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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1036827#msg1036827
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2013, 09:34:31 am »
I like this card, but it feels strange to see a Volcano attack.
I think you could give it a passive ability that prevent it to attack, and deal damage equal to its ATK rather than its HP. Then you can raise its HP, to make it more resistant to CC.

Something like this:
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Volcano
1|5

:fire :fire : Erupt (Sacrifice Card)
All creatures take damage equal to this card's attack.
Passive: Static (this creature does not attack)


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Re: Volcano | Volcano https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46140.msg1036976#msg1036976
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2013, 09:24:45 pm »
Quint won't protect Volcano?
1. Quinted creatures can't be RoF'd. So it shouldn't be Volcano'd either.
2. Just like UG, you should be able to quint it, but it will be destroyed anyway when used.
I meant to say that Quinting a Volcano would not stop the sacrifice effect, in case some one misunderstood the card.
Reworded notes accordingly.
I like this card, but it feels strange to see a Volcano attack.
I think you could give it a passive ability that prevent it to attack, and deal damage equal to its ATK rather than its HP. Then you can raise its HP, to make it more resistant to CC.

Something like this:
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Volcano
1|5

:fire :fire : Erupt (Sacrifice Card)
All creatures take damage equal to this card's attack.
Passive: Static (this creature does not attack)


I think that skews the card's design a bit too much towards theme - since when can a stuffy doll be bigger than dragons and magically attack opponents as well?

Combining two mechanics together to result in Erupt seems unecessarily complex when it can be done with just one mechanic.

 

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