Unstable Hourglass | Broken Hourglass

[OldTrees]

13 | 16 damage per turn for 5 + 1 card per turn.

[Rutarete]

This looks like fun with Shard of Focus

[furballdn]

5 quanta for 13 damage every other turn. That's about 6.5 damage per turn at the cost of 2-3 pillars each turn.

[waterzx]

5 quanta for 13 damage every other turn. That's about 6.5 damage per turn at the cost of 2-3 pillars each turn.

so is it balanced ? Should I lower the damage or increase the cost ?

[waterzx]

This is an excelent anti-deckout card. With two of there one played after the other, you can non stop dealing 16 damage to your opponent every turn and prevent deck out. Requires the same number of cards to operate as PA'd eternity except you don't need a rewind incase you bottom deck one, so it is actually better, except vulnerable to steal.

Though I am slightly worried about balancing issues. Unstable gas costs 5 with 1 to activate for one turn only. This costs 4 with 1 to activate, for potentially endless turns. Similar quanta/dmg ratio, but with more abilities and mono element.

But anti-deckout is not the sole function of rewind, which is also a CC card

[furballdn]

Main complaint with this is that it's almost guaranteed damage. The only way not to take damage is to either have a reflective shield up or with denial of quanta.

[OldTrees]

Compare it to other forms of almost sure damage
SoV and Poison spring to mind.

[waterzx]

Main complaint with this is that it's almost guaranteed damage. The only way not to take damage is to either have a reflective shield up or with denial of quanta.

So I think I should lower the damage to make it less destructive.

How about 10 for unupped and 13 for upped ?


And, is it okay to be a UG-like permanent, or it should go back to a spell card ?

[OldTrees]

Main complaint with this is that it's almost guaranteed damage. The only way not to take damage is to either have a reflective shield up or with denial of quanta.

So I think I should lower the damage to make it less destructive.

How about 10 for unupped and 13 for upped ?


And, is it okay to be a UG-like permanent, or it should go back to a spell card ?

1) Give a quantitative comparison to determine the correct values.

2) The sacrificial permanent is better.

[waterzx]

1) Give a quantitative comparison to determine the correct values.

How can I take the reusable ability of this card into calculation ?

Unstable Hourglass gives card advantage over Unstable Gas

BUT, Unstable Hourglass also leads to repeated draws, clogging your deck.


Neglect the reusable aspect, considering only one card :

For Unstable Hourglass : cost = 5 + 1 card + 1 turn = 7

Efficiency = 7 /13 = 0.54 cost for each point of damage to opponent
 

For unstable gas : cost = 6 + 1 + 1 card + 1 turn = 9

Efficiency = 9 / 20 = 0.45 cost for each point of damage to opponent


Well...UH is currently weaker than UG....

[OldTrees]

1) Give a quantitative comparison to determine the correct values.

How can I take the reusable ability of this card into calculation ?

Unstable Hourglass gives card advantage over Unstable Gas

BUT, Unstable Hourglass also leads to repeated draws, clogging your deck.

Neglect the reusable aspect, considering only one card :

1) Don't neglect relevant details.
2) Repeated draws of UH are beneficial.
3) If this had a one time cost rather than a per turn cost, what would that cost be?
4) 1 per turn is equivalent to X as a one time casting cost. What is X?

[waterzx]

1) Don't neglect relevant details.
2) Repeated draws of UH are beneficial.
3) If this had a one time cost rather than a per turn cost, what would that cost be?
4) 1 per turn is equivalent to X as a one time casting cost. What is X?

3) not sure your meaning

4) if X is not 2, I guess it would be 3 ?