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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg517444#msg517444
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 10:17:49 pm »
Nice card,when you are spamming creatures,if this card is on the field,you can easily outdamage the opponent. It's really good even against  :light,because Light's most creatures are airborne. By the way,it's airborne*,not airbourne. You may want to change it. Nice idea,overall.

Airbourne is fine.  It is simply the British English spelling, no harm there.
Neither the American nor British spelling of airborne/airbourne is relevant.
The only relevant word is the Elements the Game Keyword: airborne.
So Airbourne is not fine.
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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg517474#msg517474
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 12:21:48 am »
Look, guys -- If spelling is the only issue you people have with the card, then I'm happy with the card.

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg517532#msg517532
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 02:50:20 am »
I'd like some clarification in the Notes as to how the -2|-1 works:

I assume it's like Eclipse in that the debuff is tied to the permanent (and removed when the card is destroyed), and the buff does not 'stack' in that sense but the upped version's effect overrides the unupped version's?

I also kind of want to have it ignore Neutral creatures because of how obscenely well it synergizes with Aflatoxin (or rather, Malignant Cell), but I may be mistaken on that account as card design isn't something I'm well versed in.

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg517533#msg517533
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2012, 02:54:40 am »
I'd like some clarification in the Notes as to how the -2|-1 works:

I assume it's like Eclipse in that the debuff is tied to the permanent (and removed when the card is destroyed), and the buff does not 'stack' in that sense but the upped version's effect overrides the unupped version's?

I also kind of want to have it ignore Neutral creatures because of how obscenely well it synergizes with Aflatoxin (or rather, Malignant Cell), but I may be mistaken on that account as card design isn't something I'm well versed in.

I'll add some stuff in the notes, but yes it's like Eclipse - It does not stack, and the upgraded just adds -1 to all possibly affected creatures.

As for the Malignant Cell thing - The card won't affect cards that you can't play naturally, such as Malignant Cell or Singularity.

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg517556#msg517556
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2012, 04:52:41 am »
Technicalities:
While spelling is agreeably a very minor detail when it comes only to card design, 'Airborne' is what the card should state.
For the cost, it should go before the ability name and followed by a colon.  This only affects the unupgraded card.

Mechanics:
I take it ATT cannot become negative due to this card.
I think -2/-1 | -3/-1 is too much.  Maybe -2/0 | -2/-1 ?

Other:
As for name, Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution seems to me to be redundant and not as fluid.  Would Acid Rain [unable to run search on used names right now] be a better name?
Why is :light unaffected?

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg517561#msg517561
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2012, 05:29:57 am »
Technicalities:
While spelling is agreeably a very minor detail when it comes only to card design, 'Airborne' is what the card should state.
For the cost, it should go before the ability name and followed by a colon.  This only affects the unupgraded card.

Mechanics:
I take it ATT cannot become negative due to this card.
I think -2/-1 | -3/-1 is too much.  Maybe -2/0 | -2/-1 ?

Other:
As for name, Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution seems to me to be redundant and not as fluid.  Would Acid Rain [unable to run search on used names right now] be a better name?
Why is :light unaffected?

From my understanding, it is a dense noxious cloud of gas that covers the entire field.  Death is not affected for being resistant to it, while Light is also capable of seeing through the dense cloud.  While it is true that for both unaffected elements the reason for such is incomplete, but doing a partial resistance would over-complicate the card.

EDIT: Also, I wouldn't mind if the attack could become negative, and the reductions are perfect in my opinion.
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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg517652#msg517652
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2012, 03:08:33 pm »
Technicalities:
While spelling is agreeably a very minor detail when it comes only to card design, 'Airborne' is what the card should state.
For the cost, it should go before the ability name and followed by a colon.  This only affects the unupgraded card.

Mechanics:
I take it ATT cannot become negative due to this card.
I think -2/-1 | -3/-1 is too much.  Maybe -2/0 | -2/-1 ?

Other:
As for name, Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution seems to me to be redundant and not as fluid.  Would Acid Rain [unable to run search on used names right now] be a better name?
Why is :light unaffected?

Addressing Technicalities:
I can make those issues be gone. It takes 20 minutes. No biggie.

Addressing Mechanics:
In any situation of GAINING a negative amount of attack/hp, I assumed that going into the negative was an effect that was not only possible, but likely for many weak creatures.

The reason why they lose so much in stats, in my reasoning, is this:
Any creature who loses -2 or -3 in Atk without going into the negative is likely to have enough health to survive. But creatures who are 2|1 or 1|1 are meant to die - It's basically a card that demands strong monsters only be on the field.

Addressing 'Other':
The name came from where I got the inspiration - A smokey steel mill. Smog/Pollution came to mind, and I'm quite fond of the name. Acid rain (Also yes, it has been suggested before) more or less sounds like a spell that deals an instant effect to all creatures, like Rain of Fire or Pandemonium. My card is supposed to be more like a field modifier, like Flood or Cloak.

 :light And  :death are unaffected by natural law - Death thrives in a polluted/smoggy wasteland, and light shines through it. Think of a lighthouse shining through a thick mist off the horizon. Even though  :light is the opposite of  :darkness, and not  :death, Captain Scibra described it best: Toxic Smog is supposed to lay a dark curse-like effect on the entire field, but more like a cloud of poisonous air rather than a curse.

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg520304#msg520304
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2012, 10:32:43 pm »
UPDATE!

Made it to the Crucible, so it's time for some refining!

I added a poll for your thoughts. If you vote, please tell me what you picked and why you picked what you picked (Yes, that's a lot of the word pick. Deal with it.).

I feel like I'm not getting feedback enough. It's getting views and votes on chat and whatnot, but the thread is so cold response-wise. This isn't an issue, really - But I'd like more feedback.

Lots of feedback = Card Refining = Better Card = Gains ranks among the other cards, up through Forge/Armory and maybe eventually Reliquary.

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg520305#msg520305
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2012, 10:33:59 pm »
Congrats on first [?] card in Crucible.

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg520312#msg520312
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2012, 11:03:05 pm »
Congrats on first [?] card in Crucible.

Thanks, but I had a few in Crucible like a year ago, then I stopped being active.
I'm pretty happy with this one.

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg525480#msg525480
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 08:44:43 pm »
Fixed buggy text boxes - Nobody pointed out to me that my icons were out of place and there were misspellings still in the info box, etc.

Looking for more feedback! Come on guys!

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Re: Toxic Smog | Toxic Pollution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41440.msg525611#msg525611
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2012, 03:20:02 am »
hmmm.... Yeah that's quite strong against every deck... basically it's a shield that has a cost of 4 death that reduces damage by 3 and even reduces def. and it doesn't take up a shield slot... can make death be able to outrush nearly everything.... kills anything with 1 hp instantly, and can even make certain creatures become antimattered.... card isn't balanced and definately OP as is. it's not a card that any deck can use, and the ones that benefit from it benefit too much...
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