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Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092082#msg1092082
« on: August 12, 2013, 11:14:22 am »
NAME:
Majestic Pillar
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
0
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Each turn 1 quanta is generated matching the element of a card in your hand.
NAME:
Majestic Tower
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
0
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Each turn 1 quanta is generated matching the element of a card in your hand.  Activate when played.

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
'Other' cards produce random quanta.
No quanta will be produced from an empty hand.
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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092083#msg1092083
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 11:25:20 am »
1 pillar per field? Seems worthless to me. Why would I usethis instead of a normal pillar?
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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092084#msg1092084
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 11:27:35 am »
Well, for assorted off element cards. Do you think the cap. should be removed?

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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092086#msg1092086
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 11:31:45 am »
Reduce the cost to nothing. Or remove that "1 pillar per field", it would still be balanced, and might make a good addition to a rainbow deck...?

I would think about the unupgraded to cost 1, the upgraded 0, and removing the "one pillar per field" It would still be better to use normal pillars in a mono-deck, but it would make that card a little bit more useful, specially in trios/quatros
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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092087#msg1092087
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 11:34:44 am »
Reduce the cost to nothing. Or remove that "1 pillar per field", it would still be balanced, and might make a good addition to a rainbow deck...?

I would think about the unupgraded to cost 1, the upgraded 0, and removing the "one pillar per field" It would still be better to use normal pillars in a mono-deck, but it would make that card a little bit more useful, specially in trios/quatros
Alright, I'll make the changes. Aha, I usually seem to start under-powered and work my way up. One thing is that I didn't want them to be better than quantums considering their accuracy. So, I'm gonna make the cost 2|1 for now.

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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092091#msg1092091
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 11:52:31 am »
They will not be better than quantum pillars in most rainbows, because rainbows need a lot of quanta of each different element, which the majestic tower would never be able to provide.

If you have a fire, a water a air and a time card in your hand, majestic tower would only grant quanta of these four. If you draw your first aether shield or hour glas in round ten, and no other time quanta-card before, you can´t play the hour glas. And if you play it, you won´t get any more time quanta.

I think, that even with 0 cost, it´s pretty useless in complete rainbows, because you won´t get enough quanta, and only quanta for the cards in your hand, but not for the ones you may draw.
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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092093#msg1092093
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 12:01:43 pm »
Good point, I'll lower the costs both to 0. Forgot about the technical limitations of producing quanta from your hand, aha.

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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092106#msg1092106
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 12:46:49 pm »
As the pillar is now, i would love it. I would upgrade this card instead of normal pillars, because it´s useful in every single mono deck, and doesn´t cost as much as upgrading Stone, Fire, Air, ... whatever. Since you only need to upgrade one sort of Pillars instead of 12.

That aside, just like pendulums, it will be used as a counter to earthquake in lots of mono-decks, which would mean an indirect nerf to earthquake. (I can´t really tell if this is good or bad...)

Further, it would make trio and quatro decks, even pento-decks (five colours) possible, because it gets the quanta of the cards you need right now... (But as I said, for rainbows 3 quanta per Quantum Tower would still be the better option.)

But I think the majestic tower shouldn´t be exactly the same as a normal tower. I think for the upgraded one the advantage "Activate when played" should be changed to something else. Maybe "Can´t be destroyed the turn after played" ? Just a feeling because a special tower should have a special effect. (And that way, for upgraded monos, it would be better to use their own coloured towers because of the extra quantum)

"Can´t be destroyed the turn after played" would be an temporary imortality like the one Seraph uses. Every time you would play a Majestic Tower, the opponent can´t destroy any of them in the next turn (cause they stack on the field, like normal pillars)
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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092162#msg1092162
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 03:29:53 pm »
I don't know what the card did before you changed it, but now I definitely share the like with the person before me. :)

I guess it's obvious, but I ask whether more than 6 copies could be used of Majestic Pillars|Towers?
« Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 03:31:52 pm by Submachine »
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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092169#msg1092169
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 04:17:22 pm »
What does this card do if your hand is empty? :o

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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092177#msg1092177
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 04:45:42 pm »
What does this card do if your hand is empty? :o

Causes a bug :D I think, nothing.



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Re: Majestic Pillar | Majestic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50730.msg1092185#msg1092185
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 05:24:50 pm »
What does this card do if your hand is empty? :o

A better question: What does this card do if you have only 'other' cards in your hand?
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