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Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg293628#msg293628
« on: March 19, 2011, 01:28:56 am »
NAME:
Life Adept
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5  :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 3
TEXT:
Adrenaline.
 :life :life : Mend - Target player's creatures heal 3 HP.
NAME:
Life Sage
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 5
TEXT:
Adrenaline.
 :life :life : Genesis - Target player's creatures heal 4 HP.
ART:
Zblader
Original Background Images from:
Stock Photo of Green Forest. (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1339360)
Emeraldtiger (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17991.msg288389#msg288389) (Using This stock image (http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=584528))
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
A card that can serve multiple purposes. It can be run in a duo buff deck to take advantage of the adrenaline or can used to mass heal creatures and prevent them from dying.

:life
Life, the wilds and greens.
Forests of frogs and dragons.
Sprout, green bulbs and seeds.
SERIES:
Sage Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22551.0.html)
NAME:
Life Adept
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5  :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 3
TEXT:
Adrenaline.
 :life :life : Mend - Target side's creatures heal 3 HP.
NAME:
Life Sage
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 5
TEXT:
Adrenaline.
 :life :life : Genesis - Target side's creatures heal 4 HP.
ART:
Zblader
Original Background Images from:
Stock Photo of Green Forest. (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1339360)
Emeraldtiger (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17991.msg288389#msg288389) (Using This stock image (http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=584528))
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
A card that can serve multiple purposes. It can be run in a duo buff deck to take advantage of the adrenaline or can used to mass heal creatures and prevent them from dying.

:life
Life, the wilds and greens.
Forests of frogs and dragons.
Sprout, green bulbs and seeds.
SERIES:
Sage Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22551.0.html)
NAME:
Life Adept
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5  :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 3
TEXT:
Adrenaline.
 :life :life : Mend - All creatures heal 3 HP.
NAME:
Life Sage
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 5
TEXT:
Adrenaline.
 :life :life : Mend - All creatures heal 4 HP.
ART:
Zblader
Original Background Images from:
Stock Photo of Green Forest. (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1339360)
Emeraldtiger (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17991.msg288389#msg288389) (Using This stock image (http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=584528))
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
A card that can serve multiple purposes. It can be run in a duo buff deck to take advantage of the adrenaline or can used to mass heal creatures and prevent them from dying.

:life
Life, the wilds and greens.
Forests of frogs and dragons.
Sprout, green bulbs and seeds.
SERIES:
Sage Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22551.0.html)
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg293664#msg293664
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 01:57:53 am »
hmm all creatures? maybe a bit OP because of all creatures? what about 1? its basically like raising he hp of all your creatures can be deadly if your lava golem's hp goes over atk or is equal
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg293671#msg293671
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 02:02:45 am »
Quote from: ztormtrooper on March 19, 2011, 01:57:53 am
hmm all creatures? maybe a bit OP because of all creatures? what about 1? its basically like raising he hp of all your creatures can be deadly if your lava golem's hp goes over atk or is equal
You forgot about Angel's ability didn't you?
Healing all creatures 4 and having Adrenaline on a 0 attack creature as a +7 cost skill sounds reasonable if not UP.

I forgot: How does infection affect 0atk adrenal creatures when Sundial is not out?
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg293673#msg293673
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 02:04:20 am »
Question: How does this fare against Nightmare Voodoo dolls? 1) they might not be able to play the dolls. 2) if they can play the dolls, does the healing heal you in return?
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg293677#msg293677
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 02:07:24 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on March 19, 2011, 02:02:45 am
Quote from: ztormtrooper on March 19, 2011, 01:57:53 am
hmm all creatures? maybe a bit OP because of all creatures? what about 1? its basically like raising he hp of all your creatures can be deadly if your lava golem's hp goes over atk or is equal
You forgot about Angel's ability didn't you?
Healing all creatures 4 as a +7 cost skill sounds reasonable if not UP.
archangel heals only one creature(+5) and costs the same while angel costs 4 light and heals one for 3 or 4 so its probably ok(im not to good at this)
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg293685#msg293685
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 02:17:02 am »
Quote from: ztormtrooper on March 19, 2011, 02:07:24 am
Quote from: OldTrees on March 19, 2011, 02:02:45 am
Quote from: ztormtrooper on March 19, 2011, 01:57:53 am
hmm all creatures? maybe a bit OP because of all creatures? what about 1? its basically like raising he hp of all your creatures can be deadly if your lava golem's hp goes over atk or is equal
You forgot about Angel's ability didn't you?
Healing all creatures 4 as a +7 cost skill sounds reasonable if not UP.
archangel heals only one creature(+5) and costs the same while angel costs 4 light and heals one for 3 or 4 so its probably ok(im not to good at this)
Guardian Angel has 1atk, 6hp and  :light:heal target creature 5 for a casting cost of 3 :light
Life Adept has 0atk, 3hp,  :life :life:heal all creatures 3 and Adrenaline (with 0 atk) for a casting cost of 5 :life

Less attack, Significantly less hp, Higher cost but gets a mass heal and an almost useless adrenaline.

@ZBlader
Does Mend heal the enemy creatures? It is worded so that is a possible interpretation.
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg294001#msg294001
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 04:02:14 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on March 19, 2011, 02:17:02 am
Quote from: ztormtrooper on March 19, 2011, 02:07:24 am
Quote from: OldTrees on March 19, 2011, 02:02:45 am
Quote from: ztormtrooper on March 19, 2011, 01:57:53 am
hmm all creatures? maybe a bit OP because of all creatures? what about 1? its basically like raising he hp of all your creatures can be deadly if your lava golem's hp goes over atk or is equal
You forgot about Angel's ability didn't you?
Healing all creatures 4 as a +7 cost skill sounds reasonable if not UP.
archangel heals only one creature(+5) and costs the same while angel costs 4 light and heals one for 3 or 4 so its probably ok(im not to good at this)
Guardian Angel has 1atk, 6hp and  :light:heal target creature 5 for a casting cost of 3 :light
Life Adept has 0atk, 3hp,  :life :life:heal all creatures 3 and Adrenaline (with 0 atk) for a casting cost of 5 :life

Less attack, Significantly less hp, Higher cost but gets a mass heal and an almost useless adrenaline.

@ZBlader
Does Mend heal the enemy creatures? It is worded so that is a possible interpretation.
No, that was just a messup in terms of my wording. It should be that only all your creatures heal +3HP, but considering the voodoo doll thing nepycros mentioned earlier I might change it to "target side's creatures heal 3HP".

Also the "almost useless" adrenaline doesn't seem so useless to me - since this is a creature with Adrenaline rather than a spell or permanent that grants it can replace Adrenaline + Creature in some decks. Life Sage could then be buffed with a spell like momentum or blessing to deal a lot of damage (unupped blessing or upped chaos power is probably the most ideal buff due to max damage or cheapness respectively).

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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg294005#msg294005
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2011, 04:12:15 pm »
By "almost useless" I meant that it needs a buff before the adrenaline would cause any benefit.
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg294008#msg294008
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2011, 04:14:28 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on March 19, 2011, 04:12:15 pm
By "almost useless" I meant that it needs a buff before the adrenaline would cause any benefit.
Ok, thanks for clearing this up. Does this card need to be buffed? If yes, then what are your suggestions?
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg294017#msg294017
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 04:24:26 pm »
I do not think it needs a buff.
It may need a buff but it does not need a nerf.
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg294039#msg294039
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 05:00:29 pm »
Alright then,

Card Changed:
"Heal all creatures" is now "Target side's creatures are healed".
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Re: Life Adept | Life Sage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23124.msg294049#msg294049
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2011, 05:29:49 pm »
I still would like to know how this would fare with Nightmare Voodoo Dolls. If the opponent can play the dolls, would healing them heal yourself?
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