Lich | Greater Lich

[DrOctaganapus2]

What is the advantage of having the unupped on your pernament field? Would it have the ability to turn into a random pernament so the enemy would actually target it?

[XYTWO]

What is the advantage of having the unupped on your pernament field? Would it have the ability to turn into a random pernament so the enemy would actually target it?

You're hoping the opponent DOESN'T target it because you like your Lich. :/

[Smurrf]

I think you misunderstood the card.  Phylactery is what makes Lich only a semi-immortal.  Blow it up, and immortality is removed from Lich...that's the only purpose of Phy.  Upped just gets a minor bonus heal, at a cost.

[Acsabi44]

this is a tricky card....
It have signs of card advantege written over it (you need 2 cards to get rid of it)
But in reality, with its current stats, nobody is going to bother wether the lich is alive.
I'd either alter the stats or (even better!) add an ability that gets out of hand if not dealt with.

In its current version, the unpped one is worse than an Immortal, and the upped one is IMO worse than an abomination...

I would definitely tinker with it tho, as I think both the concept and the actual idea has great potential.

[Essence]

It's too expensive.  Compare to an Immortal.

[Smurrf]

But in reality, with its current stats, nobody is going to bother wether the lich is alive.
I'd either alter the stats or (even better!) add an ability that gets out of hand if not dealt with.

It's too expensive.  Compare to an Immortal.

Perhaps then, keep the cost the same (or even raise it by one) and raise the stats to, say, 7|7 (9|8)?  9|8 for the upped would allow it to be targetable by Maxwell's Demon.

[Acsabi44]

I'd add an ability that encourages(but not forces) the opponent to deal with this.
See shadowmage infiltrator from MtG: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=126333
Something like that. (of course this effect is much stronger in EtG cause there's no blocking)

[Acsabi44]

EDIT: Nwm. Please remove.

[Smurrf]

Updated, gave the card more AP|HP that can be lost if Phylactery is destroyed.  Comments on this version?

[Acsabi44]

Updated, gave the card more AP|HP that can be lost if Phylactery is destroyed.  Comments on this version?

Much better IMO.
(I almost say that this version is too powerful I'd make the upped one 4/5 without plylatchery. )

[Essence]

Disagree ^^.  Its perfect as it is.

[DrOctaganapus2]

Perfect