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Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245706#msg245706
« on: January 12, 2011, 04:40:46 am »
NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire and Gravity
COST:
4  :fire or   :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target Creature gains +3 | + 0 and Momentum.
NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire and Gravity
COST:
2  :fire or   :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target Creature gains +3 | + 0 and Momentum.
ART:
Unknown (this was from a motivational poster found on photobucket:http://media.photobucket.com/image/determination/jmat123/Determination.jpg?o=4 )
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Drains from your   :gravity  , :fire , or both quanta pools to play the cost.  The different card border is a result of me messing around with pixlr, and I like it.  I'll be using this style alongside the other one for the Duality Series.


The card is a duality, and as a result will drain random quanta from :   :fire  and   :gravity


SERIES:
Duality Series http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19516.0.html

DOMINANT ELEMENT :  :fire (If this card makes it into the crucible, please put in the fire section)
NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
3  :fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target creature gains +2 | 0. If you have any :gravity quanta, this card also gets + 1 | 0 and Momentum.
NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
2  :fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target creature gains +2 | 0. If you have any :gravity quanta, this card also gets + 1 | 0 and Momentum.
ART:
www.sxc.hu
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
SERIES:
Duality Series http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19516.0.html


NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire and Gravity
COST:
4  :fire or   :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target Creature gains +3 | + 0 and Momentum.
NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire and Gravity
COST:
2  :fire or   :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target Creature gains +3 | + 0 and Momentum.
ART:
Unknown (this was from a motivational poster found on photobucket:http://media.photobucket.com/image/determination/jmat123/Determination.jpg?o=4 )
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Drains from your   :gravity  , :fire , or both quanta pools to play the cost.  The different card border is a result of me messing around with pixlr, and I like it.  I'll be using this style alongside the other one for the Duality Series.
SERIES:
Duality Series http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19516.0.html

DOMINANT ELEMENT :  :fire (If this card makes it into the crucible, please put in the fire section)

NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire and Light
COST:
4  :fire or  :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target Creature gains +3 | + 0 and Momentum.
NAME:
Determination
ELEMENT:
Fire and Light
COST:
4  :fire or  :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target Creature gains +3 | + 0 and Momentum.
ART:
Unknown (this was from a motivational poster found on photobucket:http://media.photobucket.com/image/determination/jmat123/Determination.jpg?o=4 )
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Drains from your  :light  , :fire , or both quanta pools to play the cost.  The different card border is a result of me messing around with pixlr, and I like it.  I'll be using this style alongside the other one for the Duality Series.
SERIES:
Duality Series (Link coming soon to a forum near you)
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245738#msg245738
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2011, 05:15:54 am »
WHAT!?
Sorry, but I don't think this works.
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245754#msg245754
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2011, 05:33:37 am »
Quote from: EmeraldTiger on January 12, 2011, 05:15:54 am
WHAT!?
Sorry, but I don't think this works.
At least provide an explanation of how it doesn't work. This idea is more thematic than mechanic based, so I'd also like a few suggestions exactly how I could make a different effect with the same theme.
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245762#msg245762
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2011, 05:48:23 am »
It doesn't fit fire.
A White Flame would fit better
colors of fire blue yellow orange red white
you can get other colors when burning certain chemicals
White Flames are among the hottest types
yellow is a colder fire the rest a in between and depend on what is burning.
but in-case im wrong here is the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245766#msg245766
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2011, 05:54:52 am »
Umm Emerald Tiger this is Light/Fire not an actual fire.
I personally do not see why Momentum is in there. Momentum is Gravity not Fire or Light.
I would suggest dropping Momentum and replacing it with something that would fit mono Fire and fit mono Light.
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245775#msg245775
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 06:04:35 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on January 12, 2011, 05:54:52 am
Umm Emerald Tiger this is Light/Fire not an actual fire.
I personally do not see why Momentum is in there. Momentum is Gravity not Fire or Light.
I would suggest dropping Momentum and replacing it with something that would fit mono Fire and fit mono Light.
I know it is not real fire, but he might find something in the wiki that could help fit the theme.
Fire emits light of different types.
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245889#msg245889
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 12:58:39 pm »
bioluminescence could maybe replace momentum?
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245963#msg245963
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 03:51:10 pm »
Quote from: joebob777 on January 12, 2011, 12:58:39 pm
bioluminescence could maybe replace momentum?
Could you imagine a Fire creature generating Light quanta? If so then that works.
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg245969#msg245969
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 04:01:10 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on January 12, 2011, 05:54:52 am
Umm Emerald Tiger this is Light/Fire not an actual fire.
I personally do not see why Momentum is in there. Momentum is Gravity not Fire or Light.
I would suggest dropping Momentum and replacing it with something that would fit mono Fire and fit mono Light.
Well, I was thinking that when you are determined, you will get past all the forces against you but you are right in the case it doesn't fit the element.

Quote from: joebob777 on January 12, 2011, 12:58:39 pm
bioluminescence could maybe replace momentum?
Good suggestion joebob.  That fits the light/fire part light better than any other.  I think I will change the card's name to "Solar Energy" in that case when I can change the card.  Doees anybody else have any other suggestions in the meantime?
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg246022#msg246022
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 05:13:52 pm »
Determination and momentum (unstoppable) fits gravity. You could change light to gravity or fire to gravity.
I don't see a real use of doing another bioluminiscence card...

And why the divide is not diagonally here?
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg246028#msg246028
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2011, 05:28:25 pm »
Quote from: Drobbit on January 12, 2011, 05:13:52 pm
Determination and momentum (unstoppable) fits gravity. You could change light to gravity or fire to gravity.
I don't see a real use of doing another bioluminiscence card...

And why the divide is not diagonally here?
It's an art attempt with a different style for duality.  I personally like it, so I will be using this style alongside the other one for  Duality  (it gives the art an upredictable feeling - which style will I use next?) . 


That being said, after a bit of self-debate, this card will become  :fire /  :gravity because it is more thematically fit and  :light already has too much quanta generation.  Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: Determination | Determination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19355.msg246035#msg246035
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 05:41:53 pm »
I preffere the diagonal divide. I can not explain why... is more hidden.
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