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Wandering Plague | Wandering Plague https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1046666#msg1046666
« on: February 28, 2013, 07:15:22 pm »
NAME:
Wandering Plague
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Transfer 1 poison counter from target to each other creature and player. Generate 1 :death   for each transfer.
NAME:
Wandering Plague
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
2 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Transfer 1 poison counter from target to each other creature and player. Generate 1 :death   for each transfer.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
For each other valid target on the field, one poison counter is transferred from the main target. If there aren't enough poison counters, then all other targets will not gain poison counters. A bit hard to explain, I hope the card text are good enough.

Purify counters will be transferred the same way.

I came up with this idea when I though that there should be some other way of dealing with poison other than only purify. I'm not sure that death is the right element for this, nor am I sure that the cost is balanced. Please give comments on how to make this idea better.

EDIT: Changed the name and lowered the cost. Now this can be used as a cheaper plague in poison decks as well.

EDIT2: Added the effect to generate quanta as OdinVanguard suggested. If you think this sounds OP somehow, remember that after the first use, the poison counters will already be spread out, so you will probably not get equal power from it if you use it again directly, and many creatures will die shortly afterwards, so that this diminish in power.
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Re: Poison Spread | Poison Spread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1046671#msg1046671
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 07:23:56 pm »
Remove all poison counters from target creature or player.

For each poison counter removed a random enemy target gains 1 poison counter.

Something like this?  Removes all poison from one target and disperses them on your opponent's side of the field.


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Re: Poison Spread | Poison Spread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1046674#msg1046674
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 07:26:50 pm »
Well, not really. Only as many counters as there are other targets are removed. So not always all of them. I didn't want it to be as good at removing poison as purify.
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Re: Poison Spread | Poison Spread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1046802#msg1046802
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 12:47:41 am »
Interesting card concept. Name is a little odd sounding though. How about something like: "Vector", or "Wandering Plague"

At any rate, I've seen several attempts at making disease spreading cards in the past, though this one seems to be fairly distinct.

It has some definite potential with voodoo dolls I think.

The card does seem a little on the expensive side considering it appears to affect all creatures and players. Otherwise I think it would make a nice addition to the :death element.
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Re: Poison Spread | Poison Spread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1046831#msg1046831
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 01:46:40 am »
I like it, but isn't the wording a bit off? To me, it sounds like the target only loses 1 poison counter, while every other creature and player gains one.

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Re: Poison Spread | Poison Spread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1046901#msg1046901
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 05:36:48 am »
This is certainly an interesting card, but it seems too situational. Purify has healing built in so that it's not utterly useless against non-poison decks.

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Re: Poison Spread | Poison Spread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1046949#msg1046949
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 09:50:54 am »
I like it, but isn't the wording a bit off? To me, it sounds like the target only loses 1 poison counter, while every other creature and player gains one.
Yeah, but I'm not sure on how to word it better.

This is certainly an interesting card, but it seems too situational. Purify has healing built in so that it's not utterly useless against non-poison decks.
Thought about that too. Any suggestions?
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Re: Poison Spread | Poison Spread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1047033#msg1047033
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 05:03:18 pm »
This is certainly an interesting card, but it seems too situational. Purify has healing built in so that it's not utterly useless against non-poison decks.
Thought about that too. Any suggestions?
I think this card should be ok in this respect. Purify definitely needed the healing aspect to make it useful because you are not guaranteed to be fighting a deck that uses poison.
This card, on the other hand, belongs to an element which makes heavy use of poison. Therefore, you have good control over whether or not there will be a valid target.
E.g. You can use this in conjunction with aflatoxin, virus, deadly poison, etc.
There are enough cards in the game that allow you to inflict poison so that it shouldn't have any problems with being situational.

It should be noted, however, that this card will generally be less powerful than plague in most cases. The reason is that it requires a lot of effort to poison a given target to begin with. So as a means of distributing a lot of poison at once, plague is a much better choice.

Where this card really shines is that it has more flexibility in its utility.
For instance, like purifiy, it can be used defensively to cleanse a target of poison.
It can also be used to reassign poison from a target that is about to die
E.g. if you pumped 5 poison into an armagio and it is down to its last hp, you can spread it out so that the poison won't be lost.
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Re: Wandering Plague | Wandering Plague https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1048047#msg1048047
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 07:11:55 pm »
Any more thoughts about this from other people? Is it balanced or is it currently too weak? If too weak, what can be changed to make this better?
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Re: Wandering Plague | Wandering Plague https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1048444#msg1048444
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 06:39:47 pm »
Any more thoughts about this from other people? Is it balanced or is it currently too weak? If too weak, what can be changed to make this better?
If people still think its too weak you could try adding:

-"Generate 1 :death per counter transfered."

or

-"Generate 1 death effect per X counters." (where X is replaced by some number... maybe 2 or 3?)

or even

-"Heals caster by 1 hp per counter."

You have about a line and a half of text space, so there are a lot of options.
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Re: Wandering Plague | Wandering Plague https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1048537#msg1048537
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 10:09:06 pm »
Edited the card as per OdinVanguards suggestion. Thanks!

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Re: Wandering Plague | Wandering Plague https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47289.msg1053028#msg1053028
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2013, 09:33:51 pm »
Do someone know where to find a good picture for the card?
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