Horus | Horus

[jazzfan27]

NAME: Horus ELEMENT: Time COST: 6 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 4 | 7 TEXT: When Horus is cast target permanent is returned to its owner's hand.	NAME: Horus ELEMENT: Time COST: 7 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5 | 8 TEXT:   :  Return Horus to hand. When Horus is cast target permanent is returned to its owner's hand.

ART: IDEA: Jazzfan27 NOTES: Part of my PC for everyone series. Bounce for permanents.  Reusable bounce with the upgraded version.  (but, would soak up 8 quanta per bounce) SERIES:

[Pella]

Picker of Nits here.

The name is spelled "Osiris".  If that looks familiar, it's because we already have a False God by that name.  I know I'm still fairly new here, but I'm guessing that the Powers That Be will disapprove of such a conflict.
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[Drake_XIV]

Perhaps that's why there was a variance in spelling?  Not that is a good thing...

I take it this doesn't trigger with Mitosis?  Or if it does, that and SoR may prove to be a problem.

[jazzfan27]

I'll have to change the upgraded one to Horus instead.

Kinda late, what's the issue with mitosis?

[Marsu]

They're a bit on the strong side. Even against an opponent that doesn't have any perms (That effect on Pillars isn't to his disavantage) this is still a good card, it should be slightly UP stats/cost wise with this effect.

[Drake_XIV]

I'll have to change the upgraded one to Horus instead.

Kinda late, what's the issue with mitosis?

Your wording on the unupped is 'when it comes into play.'  That being said, that would also include creatures made with Mitosis.  With MitoSor, you have the capability of free, repeatable PC every turn.  And that's just from one.

[jazzfan27]

Ok, I'll change it to, "is cast from your hand" if I have room.

[jazzfan27]

What atk/health would you suggest?  5/6 sound ok?

[Marsu]

Would have even said 5/4 I think. If the opponent has an expensive permanent out and not too much quanta, this is so strong...

[ARTHANASIOS]

Name should be changed. As mentioned above, there is already a FG with the same name.

[jazzfan27]

Multiple fixes made.

[furballdn]

Let's start with the unupped.

4|7 stats is about 4 .
Returning a permanent is slightly weaker than a deflag, so it should be worth around 2 .
4|7 + perm return for 6 seems balanced.

Let's look at Horus upped.

5|8 stats is about 5 .
Returning a permanent is worth 2 .
Returning Horus to hand is sort of hard to balance, but I don't think it'll cost more than 3 , so I think it's fine as is.