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Static Adder |Shock Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462009#msg462009
« on: February 19, 2012, 03:00:25 am »
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
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TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 5
TEXT:
Discharge: Contact with this creature gives +2|-1.  20% chance to delay.
0 : Contact
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 5
TEXT:
Overload: Contact with this creature gives +2|-2.  20% to delay.
0 : Contact
ART:
{PENDING}
IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
Contact in this case is defined as:
When this card targets a creature with its ability.
When this card attacks a creature.
When this card is attacked by another creature.
When this card is targeted by a creature's ability.

Delay only lasts one turn.

When this card attacks the opponent, it deals 2 damage and has a 20% chance to delay their weapon for one turn.
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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462013#msg462013
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 03:05:22 am »
You have a lot of interesting card ideas.

So, the opponent sees it as a photon/RoL, but it still works like 7|5 / 3|4?

Does the fake RoL produce light?

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462015#msg462015
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 03:06:36 am »
You have a lot of interesting card ideas.

So, the opponent sees it as a photon/RoL, but it still works like 7|5 / 3|4?

Does the fake RoL produce light?
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While it comes into play as Photon/RoL respectively, it is does not gain their stats nor abilities.
So, yes to the stats, no to the bioluminescence..

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462023#msg462023
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 03:21:04 am »
I don't like that cost range you have there. The unupped can be compared to an upped charger, which costs 5 :gravity; the upped can be compared to Graviton mercenary, which costs 4 :gravity - both of these cards have the same stats as yours, respectively. Plus, the ability of illusion in my opinion is worth only 1 or 2 quanta, so I'd settle for 6-7 unupped and 3-5 upped
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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462024#msg462024
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 03:22:31 am »
I actually had Phoenix in mind when balancing stats with costs.

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462042#msg462042
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 03:56:03 am »
Wouldn't the opponent know when your photon/rol isn't generating light and dealing more damage than it is supposed to? Really don't see the point of the illusion ability since most people would know about it unless they were really absent minded. Basically you've just created a very powerful :aether vanilla attacker.

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462044#msg462044
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 03:57:59 am »
I know no one really wants to, but consider PvE.  The AI wouldn't recognize the difference.

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462049#msg462049
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 04:01:49 am »
I know no one really wants to, but consider PvE.  The AI wouldn't recognize the difference.
So it's basically a pretty strong :aether card that is also anti-AI. Aether really doesn't need this, since aether is all about expensive, bulky, protected, but not very efficient attackers.

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462100#msg462100
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 05:24:48 am »
What if it didn't take damage while Illusion is in effect?

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462103#msg462103
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 05:26:35 am »
What if it didn't take damage while Illusion is in effect?
So, basically a weaker phase spider with an extra life?

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462107#msg462107
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 05:30:52 am »
Well, when you put it like that...

But it's cheaper and more works better with Fractal...

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Re: Giant Chameleon | Nimble Chameleon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36799.msg462109#msg462109
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 05:34:01 am »
Well, when you put it like that...

But it's cheaper and more works better with Fractal...
Not really. While it is cheaper, it's way less efficient. Phase spiders and recluses give you a 1.3 and 1.75 attack per quanta ratio. Nimble chameleon is only 3/2. It might be better if used in mono aether fractal, but who honestly goes mono aether fractal? And even if a recluse is twice the cost of a nimble chameleon, it also has more than twice its attack.

 

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