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Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg382990#msg382990
« on: August 21, 2011, 05:12:14 am »
NAME:
Saboteur
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
6 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|2
TEXT:
:darkness :darkness Sabotage:
Saboteur is placed in opponent's deck. When drawn Saboteur deals 15 damage.
NAME:
Elite Saboteur
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|4
TEXT:
:darkness :darkness Sabotage:
Elite Saboteur is placed in opponent's deck. When drawn Elite Saboteur deals 15 damage.
ART:
Zanz, modified by Kami
IDEA:
Kamietsu
NOTES:
When this card is placed into the opponent's deck, they draw it just like normal only they get hurt when they do. If they have the quanta, they can then play it and use it against the opponent.
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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg382991#msg382991
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 05:16:51 am »
Cool Idea

even the attk/Hp and quantumcost is imo balanced.

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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg383007#msg383007
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 06:01:19 am »
Very similar to my idea of "Infiltrator", although I don't think I ever put it into Smithy. My idea there was it inserts itself into the opponent's deck in place of one of their cards, taking the form of that card. If that card is played it generates a Malignant Cell.
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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg383018#msg383018
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 06:37:23 am »
yeah:D malignant cell!

should be more cards producing it :D

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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg383028#msg383028
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 08:02:09 am »
I'd rather have it be a neutral-cost Darkness creature with a zero/neutral-cost self-sacrificial ability, since its ability is basically a weaker version of reverse time that is currently cheaper than the next best vehicle's (eternity's) cost and ability, easier to fractal than the next best vehicle, and deals damage too.

It seems like that the ability is so OP that you're over-balancing the cost. With the cost as it is, the opponent can only counter it if it both has enough darkness quanta and wants to sacrifice playing his original cards to shift his strategy into playing Saboteurs.

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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg383062#msg383062
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 12:28:02 pm »
I like the idea, but i'm not sure about the mechanic: maybe you can lower the cost and the damage but make the card dealing damage when in hand?
Something like:
" :darkness Sabotage: Saboteur is placed in opponent's deck.
Saboteur deals 2 damage per turn when in hand".
This also adds synergy with Nightmare. And you can lower the cost. After all is a 1|2 creature!

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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg383096#msg383096
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 03:42:45 pm »
I like it! This + Got + Nightmare =  8) and :P

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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg383100#msg383100
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 04:04:36 pm »
also, the topic needs some misspell fixing. :P
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Re: Sabotuer | Elite Sabotuer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30134.msg383294#msg383294
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 11:31:51 pm »
I like the idea, but i'm not sure about the mechanic: maybe you can lower the cost and the damage but make the card dealing damage when in hand?
Something like:
" :darkness Sabotage: Saboteur is placed in opponent's deck.
Saboteur deals 2 damage per turn when in hand".
This also adds synergy with Nightmare. And you can lower the cost. After all is a 1|2 creature!
That's not a bad idea. I sort of like it although I don't care too much for doing damage while in hand.
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