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Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449305#msg449305
« on: January 15, 2012, 06:12:37 pm »
NAME:
Rewinder
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
2 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 2
TEXT:
Rewind target enemy creature
:time :time :time :time : Replay
Play Rewinder again. Kill it if Replay isn't used once a turn.
NAME:
Rewinder
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
2 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 2
TEXT:
Rewind target enemy creature
:time :time :time :time : Replay
Play Rewinder again. Kill it if Replay isn't used once a turn.
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NOTES:
When Rewinder is played, it rewinds an enemy creature. It can't rewind your own creatures. Replay doesn't make a new Rewinder, it just plays the same one again, which triggers its effect again. It also triggers summoning sickness again, so you can't use the ability more than once a turn. Plus, you have to use the ability each turn or it dies. This doesn't include the turn it's played from your hand. Vote on the poll whether you think the card is OP or UP. Also, this card needs art. Post art for it here if you can. Also, the creature dies at the end of YOUR turn. If the creature is given liquid shadow, mitosis, or it's lobotomized, etc., if anything that gets rid of their replay ability, it dies at the end of the turn. Also, when I say it dies unless its used once a turn, I don't literally mean once a turn. It can use it twice if targeted with SoR, and it won't die.
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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449315#msg449315
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2012, 06:40:15 pm »
Your wording is a little confusing. First, it should read 'rewind your opponent's creature.'
Next: the cost ratio for rewinds is (2 + 4x)/R, x being number of times you use the skill and R being total number of rewinds. The spell's cost ratio is 2x/R
In theory, as the cost outweighs the actual spell, this should be more balanced. However, RT is already considered powerful. It's only not OP because you can't easily spam it- Eternity is rather hard to spam with its playing cost. With this, you're making a creature that can spam RT at an extremely cheap cost.
You neglect mitosis and SoR. I'm not even talking about the combo, just separately mitosis or SoR. Either one could allow you to instantly shut down your opponent, provided that your opponent uses creatures.
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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449339#msg449339
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 07:40:29 pm »
whoops i meant "rewind enemy creature"

also, this creature is very easy to kill

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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449344#msg449344
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 07:44:12 pm »
It is balanced outside of interaction with SoR and Mitosis (assuming lobo stops its auto-death).

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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449345#msg449345
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 07:47:23 pm »
if lobotomized or given mitosis IT DIES TO DEATH

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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449361#msg449361
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 08:15:20 pm »
Mmm... I must've missed that part. My bad.
Only the SoR is an issue, then.
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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449393#msg449393
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2012, 10:53:12 pm »
SoR is NOT an issue. that would mean that mitosis is rigged because of dragon+mitosis+SoR, and freeze is rigged because of freeze+poison. You cant just call a card rigged because it has good synergies with other cards. Also, this card is really easy to kill. 2 hp? there are tons of cards that can kill this.

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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg449394#msg449394
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2012, 10:58:50 pm »
This card may very well kill a lot of rushes.
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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg450245#msg450245
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 05:08:39 pm »
SoR isn`t a problem. When replaying all buffs and effects should be removed if I understand it correctly

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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg450271#msg450271
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 07:24:48 pm »
Why don't you make it:
 :time :time :time Rewind Rewinder and target enemy creature.
This way there are no problems with SoR, since it rewinds itself.
Also, you skip a draw turn like your opponent, so you have to draw another card to have a real advantage on the opponent.

But even with those modifications (that make it weaker, i think) it seems OP to me anyway.

A similar combo can be achieved with Crusader + Eternity, but:
    it needs a duo crusader costs 5 :lightcrusader have 2 turns of summoning sickness, since it needs a turn to endow and then another turn to use the ability
This is too powerful, since it can wipe an entire field of creatures.
I think rewinder should cost more... something like 4 :time|3 :time.

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Re: Rewinder | Rewinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35707.msg452925#msg452925
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