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Poisonous Lizard | Toxious Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462021#msg462021
« on: February 19, 2012, 03:17:50 am »
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NAME:
Poisonous Lizard
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
Contagious: All non-:death creatures have a 20% chance of being infected.  Double chances when flooded.
NAME:
Toxious Lizard
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
Contagious: All non-:death:death  creatures have a 20% chance of being infected.  Double chances when flooded.
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{Pending}
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Drake_XIV
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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462045#msg462045
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 03:59:19 am »
Does this not seem OP to you? Compare this with mummy. 4 :death + 1 :time for a 9 :time creature. Here, you're paying 3 :death + 1 :time for a 10 quanta plus creature. And, just for one more :death, you're getting an upped dragon. That's an average of 11.75 attack for only 5 quanta and two cards.

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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462048#msg462048
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 04:01:48 am »
OP... suddenly, death decks add mark of time with RTs to play these? Also, as fur said, compare it too Mummy and it's costs.
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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462052#msg462052
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 04:05:13 am »
Just a technicality, but RT is 2 :time  unupped.  But yeah, I didn't really like this ability in hindsight...

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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462054#msg462054
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 04:06:05 am »
Unupped, it's an average of 9.4 attack for only 3 :death + 2|1 :time. OP much?

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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462055#msg462055
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 04:08:42 am »
Just wondering why you increased the cost of the upped version because of the +1|2... imo, it could still go for the same cost as the unupped
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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462057#msg462057
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 04:09:58 am »
Why water? This really has nothing to do with water and flooding.

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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462059#msg462059
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 04:11:08 am »
Well, normally, +2/0 tends to either stay the same cost or is +1.  So, if it does get the health boost, it should be +1 cost.

Well, my thought process went that it could contaminate a water source, increasin the travel of pathogens.

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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462061#msg462061
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 04:12:46 am »
I like this new version... seems like an interesting card now. As with Flooding... thematically, it makes sense, but it makes it seem like you're trying to pull together a card that may be considered muuuuuuuuuuuch more powerful with Flooding. I could only imagine the stall decks made if you had 5 of these and flooding...
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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462062#msg462062
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 04:14:33 am »
Well, normally, +2/0 tends to either stay the same cost or is +1.  So, if it does get the health boost, it should be +1 cost.

Well, my thought process went that it could contaminate a water source, increasin the travel of pathogens.
Well, yes, thematically, you could argue that, but in practice, it just seems tacked on and awkward.

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Re: Corpse Lizard | Undead Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462067#msg462067
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 04:21:23 am »
The new version would be quite powerful in a deckout deck combined with quintessence and flooding.  Way better than the old one though!

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Re: Poisonous Lizard | Toxious Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36802.msg462074#msg462074
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 04:42:13 am »
lol, why is there a  :o above the first image? Though I think I know the answer...
I get the flooding aspect, but how does the infection reach the opponent's side of the field thematically? (without flooding)
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