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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1127890#msg1127890
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2014, 09:35:47 am »

How you can play this card to deal damage (discarding it) is its cost is 2 and it's a must-be played-card?

You can play it in first round...and after? You need a no-quanta deck...

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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1127891#msg1127891
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2014, 10:13:14 am »
ugh. A card that deals damage with discard? Sort of like a reverse Ghost of the Past.

The win condition should be removed, yes. Though I like the X damage concept. Although maybe make some additional beneficial effect when you play it so you have some choice between playing it to gain some small reward or not playing for some bigger reward. This way it doesn't just encourage the card-hoarding strategy.

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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1127897#msg1127897
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ugh. A card that deals damage with discard? Sort of like a reverse Ghost of the Past.

The win condition should be removed, yes. Though I like the X damage concept. Although maybe make some additional beneficial effect when you play it so you have some choice between playing it to gain some small reward or not playing for some bigger reward. This way it doesn't just encourage the card-hoarding strategy.

Minotaur (which became Ghost of the Past) is a better executed version of the damage on discard mechanics

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/level-4-reliquary/minotaur-minotaur/

Notice that it doesn't force you to waste the quanta to play it if you can (which is a balance clause that only made sense in the original card) and that you can make a strategy around actually playing the card.
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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1127979#msg1127979
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2014, 12:25:39 am »

How you can play this card to deal damage (discarding it) is its cost is 2 and it's a must-be played-card?

You can play it in first round...and after? You need a no-quanta deck...
Just fill your deck with SoBr and have fire mark. Then relics if necessary.

And yeah, I guess I'll give it a playable effect.

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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1128053#msg1128053
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2014, 04:57:38 pm »

How you can play this card to deal damage (discarding it) is its cost is 2 and it's a must-be played-card?

You can play it in first round...and after? You need a no-quanta deck...
Just fill your deck with SoBr and have fire mark. Then relics if necessary.

And yeah, I guess I'll give it a playable effect.

Definetelly. If you want to make it cause damage upon discard I'd make it a useful to play card (with maybe +1 cost on its balance) and I'd remove completely the "always play if you can" part. This way you at least get synergy with decks with a lot of draw power without crippling them.
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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1128082#msg1128082
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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1128107#msg1128107
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2014, 09:20:04 pm »
So... what am I supposed to give it? Heal 20 when played? I have no idea

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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1128139#msg1128139
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So... what am I supposed to give it? Heal 20 when played? I have no idea
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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1128158#msg1128158
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So... what am I supposed to give it? Heal 20 when played? I have no idea
What about: "Add up to 2 copies of this card to opponent's hand. Must be played if possible. Deals 5 damage to owner if discarded."
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Re: Negative | Negative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53819.msg1128175#msg1128175
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2014, 10:51:00 am »
Mono air with some SoBr and fire mark. Play a Sky Blitz and draw with the SoBrs (unupped). You won. OP.
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Mono air with some SoBr and fire mark. Play a Sky Blitz and draw with the SoBrs (unupped). You won. OP.
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