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Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg220707#msg220707
« on: December 10, 2010, 02:36:48 am »


NAME:
Minotaur
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
If Minotaur is discarded from your hand, deal 12 damage to your opponent.
NAME:
Minotaur
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 5
TEXT:
If Minotaur is discarded from your hand, deal 15 damage to your opponent.
ART:
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NOTES:
Mirror Shield and the like can reflect the discarding damage.
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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg220711#msg220711
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 02:39:48 am »
It seems like a balanced card, but I don't understand the logic behind it's effect.

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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg220712#msg220712
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 02:40:07 am »
Intresting idea. Though, I prefer playing cards than waiting to discard. :-\

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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg220721#msg220721
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 02:51:06 am »
Intresting idea. Though, I prefer playing cards than waiting to discard. :-\
Doesn't everybody?  This guy is supposed to shine in a situation where you can't play your cards.. like if you're getting screwed by Discord.. or Silenced.. Earthquaked.. you name it.  Gives you a way to sting back at a denial deck.

Also useful for time because of the drawing power, you could intentionally fill your hand and then start bombing your opponent with these guys.. say if they had a shield that you couldn't get past by playing it.

And even if it's getting nerfed there is still Fractal.  Fill your hand with Minotaurs and then don't play them.

Should the creature be a little stronger, or the discard damage a little more?

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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg220723#msg220723
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2010, 02:54:48 am »
Why would losing the ability to summon a Minotaur deal damage to the opponent?

The card is balanced.
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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg220876#msg220876
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 07:35:45 am »
I think :time creatures are more egyptian based. Except, for creatures that are really based on :time like fate egg.
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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg221002#msg221002
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 01:46:39 pm »
I think :time creatures are more egyptian based. Except, for creatures that are really based on :time like fate egg.
Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, it all flows in the same direction. Exact location for :time doesn't mean s***. It's all about the progression or manipulation of time.
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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg221006#msg221006
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 02:07:52 pm »
I agree that all of the ancient past and far out future is fair game to time.
So The Minotaur is fair game to the time traveling Time Elemental.
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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg221014#msg221014
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2010, 02:26:29 pm »
Fractal Minotaur ftw :P
Does the damage get reflected by reflective shield btw? Could make a weird Nightmare + Reflective Shield + Minotaur (you either get rid of crucial cards, or damage yourself ;D).

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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg221044#msg221044
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2010, 03:44:41 pm »
once again fractal ruins an idea
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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg221054#msg221054
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2010, 03:54:41 pm »
Good point, at 3 turns worth of damage per discard, this card has abnormally large synergy with fractal. I suggest reducing it to 8 and 10 damage respectively.

But the question of why discarding a minotaur would harm the opponent still has not been answered.
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Re: Minotaur | Minotaur http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17346.msg221056#msg221056
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 03:55:27 pm »
It could have the passive skill 'Vengeful'? ;)
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