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Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108707#msg1108707
« on: November 10, 2013, 07:29:11 am »
NAME:
Poison Apple
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 1
TEXT:
Causes 1 poison damage each turn. Inflict plaque to all the creatures of whom ever kills this.
NAME:
Witches Apple
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Causes 1 poison damage each turn. Inflict plaque to all the creatures of whom ever kills the this.

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
I've made it a creature because some of the elements doesn't have a spell to destroy this if this were a permanent.

SORRY , the upped should be also be a creature.
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« Last Edit: November 10, 2013, 08:09:04 am by Sthneo5 »
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108713#msg1108713
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 07:55:51 am »
1/1 seems a bit weak for a 5 cost creature. Also why is the upped a spell, and unupped a creature? +2/+2 seems fair and not too overpowered.
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108715#msg1108715
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 08:06:43 am »
1/1 seems a bit weak for a 5 cost creature. Also why is the upped a spell, and unupped a creature? +2/+2 seems fair and not too overpowered.

Sorry, the upped should also be a creature. 1/1 because I'll be inflicting 1 poison damage to the opponents health, and the opponent has no choice but to kill it, and when he/she kills it, all his/her creatures will be inflicted with plaque.
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108718#msg1108718
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 08:41:23 am »
1/1 seems a bit weak for a 5 cost creature. Also why is the upped a spell, and unupped a creature? +2/+2 seems fair and not too overpowered.

Sorry, the upped should also be a creature. 1/1 because I'll be inflicting 1 poison damage to the opponents health, and the opponent has no choice but to kill it, and when he/she kills it, all his/her creatures will be inflicted with plaque.

No choice but to kill it...? basilisk blood, freeze (or congeal) and any shield which blocks at least 1 damage. if anything, it should probably be 3/1. Also, Retrovirus makes basically the same to the opponents creatures (plague) and costs only 2 quanta (same with plague itself) I would suggest 2/1 for the unupped and 3/1 for the upped.

Edit: And as cost a max of 4 for both unupped and upped.
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108724#msg1108724
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 10:15:27 am »
1/1 seems a bit weak for a 5 cost creature. Also why is the upped a spell, and unupped a creature? +2/+2 seems fair and not too overpowered.

Sorry, the upped should also be a creature. 1/1 because I'll be inflicting 1 poison damage to the opponents health, and the opponent has no choice but to kill it, and when he/she kills it, all his/her creatures will be inflicted with plaque.

No choice but to kill it...? basilisk blood, freeze (or congeal) and any shield which blocks at least 1 damage. if anything, it should probably be 3/1. Also, Retrovirus makes basically the same to the opponents creatures (plague) and costs only 2 quanta (same with plague itself) I would suggest 2/1 for the unupped and 3/1 for the upped.

Edit: And as cost a max of 4 for both unupped and upped.

The poison is not on the attack. It says "cause 1 poison damage every turn".
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108725#msg1108725
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 11:15:07 am »
The poison is not on the attack. It says "cause 1 poison damage every turn".

well, as long as it isn't killed, it's just an overexpensive chrysaora. And chrysaora is already one of the not-so-strong cards which is useless in anything but a well-built stall. (And chrysaoras weakness isn't that it is easily CC-able, but the problem is that is it so slow on damage.)
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108746#msg1108746
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2013, 02:36:53 pm »
A few questions I feel like asking you:

1. If you take away the 'inflict plague' part, isn't this card basically a Momentum'd Forest Scorpion with weaker stats?
2. The 'causing poison to the opponent' is an active ability, and 'inflict plague' is passive, right?
3. This one isn't much of a question, but instead of "inflict plague to all the creatures", I believe the description should say "if this is killed, infect all the creatures of the killer".
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108779#msg1108779
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013, 06:54:38 pm »
I kinda feel like this should have 0 ATK. I mean come on, its an apple. You get hit by an apple, you don't take damage, you discover gravity.

0 ATK would make this a chrysoara without the ability cost and the plague when killed.
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Re: Poison Apple | Witches Apple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52298.msg1108816#msg1108816
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2013, 09:43:47 pm »
I kinda feel like this should have 0 ATK. I mean come on, its an apple. You get hit by an apple, you don't take damage, you discover gravity.

0 ATK would make this a chrysoara without the ability cost and the plague when killed.

That's why I think this image, which is awesome by the way, would fit better in a spell.
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