Life-Giving Cypress | Life-Giving Cypress (was Stream/Tree of Life)

[Smurrf]

NAME: Life-Giving Cypress ELEMENT: COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Generates  &  every turn.  Solid.  : Spawn Tadpole.	NAME: Life-Giving Cypress ELEMENT: COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Generates  &  every turn.  Solid.  : Spawn Elite Tadpole.

ART: Natural Resources Conservation Service, part of US Dept of Agriculture.  Public Domain.  IDEA: Smurrf NOTES: Created for Community Challenge:  Duality's Legacy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26964.msg0.html#new). Counters the fact that it provides extra quanta by being Solid (unable to be made immaterial by Enchant Artifact or any other similar abilities.) Artwork is mine, but if you have better (could hardly have worse) and would like to see it up, let me know. Change note: Changed cost of upped ability from  to  . Reworked card; formerly was free and upped (only) had  : Heal self for up to 5HP. Changed from Tree to Stream. Changed from Stream of Life to Life-Giving Cypress. SERIES:

NAME: Tadpole ELEMENT: COST: 1 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1|1 TEXT: :  Grows into Horned Frog.	NAME: Elite Tadpole ELEMENT: COST: 1 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1|1 TEXT: :  Grows into Giant Frog.

ART: Image taken from Wikipedia IDEA: Smurrf NOTES: SERIES:

[ZephyrPhantom]

Interesting idea, but multi-element costs (such as the upgraded version's ability) are generally not encouraged to be put in a card since they would be very difficult to code.

How about changing the cost to  ?

[Smurrf]

I was afraid of that; cost has been changed.  It does mean that unlike the previous version, the owner will have to have an outside source of  in order to use every turn.

I also shortened the text from "May not be made immaterial" to "Solid"...not because it couldn't fit, but to use in other cards where text space may be a premium.

[Manipul8r]

I like Solid as a keyword and new passive.  The card itself is too strong to cost 0, though.  I'd take it over a pillar at least 90% of the time since you're likely not going to get more than 2 of them out early, making EQ not much more effective against it than it is against pillars (since it would destroy 3 pillars).  Additionally, the upgraded card is basically a free SoG that drains and generates !  I look forward to seeing 'Solid' on other cards, but I feel Tree of Life may be a bit too redundant with pendulums and other existing cards as it is currently.

[Smurrf]

What if it cost, say, 2   to cast?

[ZephyrPhantom]

What if it cost, say, 2   to cast?

2 random quantum to cast should be okay. I do see what Manipul8r's point though - how about making it's ability buff creature stats, to reduce redundancy?

[Smurrf]

Such as  : Add +1/+1 to target creature?

[ZephyrPhantom]

Such as  : Add +1/+1 to target creature?

Yep. Might need to stay  though since the card can fuel itself.

[Smurrf]

True.  There is the fact though that with any kind of ability, it won't stack in a single slot, meaning players might have to worry about permanent spaces.  Is that, Solid, and the fact that you have to pay quanta to bring it out enough to balance it, or does it actually need that extra    for cost?

[ZephyrPhantom]

I took a look at this similar card (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25098.0) that I found.

Triskellion Ring
2 
Permanent
  : Target creature gains +1 | +1 .
Tree of Life
2 Other
Permanent
Generates  and  , cannot be immaterial.
  : Target creature gains +1 | +1 .
would probably be a good cost, just to play it safe.

[Smurrf]

Hmm.  What about spinning off the Life concept into creature generation, such as  : Spawn a 2/2 creature (to be named later)? Yes, Horned Frog is 2 to create a 3/3, but the savings on card space plus other factors should be a good balance.  Actually, maybe the unupped could spawn a 1/1 for  as well.

[artimies7]

HELLO! This is interesting. Solid sounds nice and, well, solid! *Laughter*
For the summoned creature suggestion, how about a life/earth duo, seeing as it generates those two elements of quanta. It might generate either of:

Leaf Sprite | Root Sprite
 
2|2
0: Sacrifice to give +2|+1 to target creature.

Dust Sprite | Soil Sprite
 
1|3
0: Sacrifice to give +1|+2 to target creature.

It might stack so you could only use the ability once, just so that it wouldn't generate 6 Sprites a turn.
Issues?