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Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393127#msg393127
« on: September 13, 2011, 11:12:12 pm »
NAME:
Bug-Leader
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|6
TEXT:
? : Regroup
Summons 1 Bug to the field.
Leader :  Creature can't be devoured.
NAME:
Bug-Leader
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|7
TEXT:
? : Regroup
Summons 1 Bug to the field.
Leader :  Creature can't be devoured.
ART:
...
IDEA:
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NOTES:
These bugs may be weak alone but in groups they are strong.
SERIES:
...


The Bugs are below
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393138#msg393138
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 11:36:56 pm »
You need to set it up in the fashion described here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5039.0.html)

Otherwise, it doesn't seem like a bad card.
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393140#msg393140
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 11:42:08 pm »
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393178#msg393178
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 01:57:56 am »
It sorta looks like a more pointless scarab.

Also, I think that the thread title needs to be <unupgraded name> | <upgraded name>.


Follow-up question: What is a Bug Leader?  The creature is called "Bug".
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393188#msg393188
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 02:44:24 am »
"Swarm: n = number of Bugs you control at the end of the turn."

http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/cards-time/scarab-scarab/ for reference.

It still needs a little something to be able to be on par with Scarabs.
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393458#msg393458
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 10:43:19 pm »
Maybe you could make an ability for them.
Sacrifice: Sacrifice this creature and heal you for it's Hp.

Although a generator for this would probably be necessary to make good use of it.
Mitosis could work, but a generator would be better.
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393484#msg393484
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 11:51:19 pm »
Maybe could have sense with N/N and Mitosis
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393496#msg393496
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 12:08:44 am »
The bug leaders were added , lol how did i miss that XD
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Re: Bug-Leader/Bug-Leader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30938.msg393508#msg393508
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 12:55:00 am »
The Leader ability is problematic. Otherwise the creature generator is a good improvement.

Problems with Leader:
1) It acts as an exception to Devour that is not obvious as part of Devour's text. This could lead to a chain of exception cards which are poor design because they hide information from any user that does not research the game AND because they tend to break the suspension of disbelief.
2) It is too situational and does not provide enough benefit for the increased complexity.
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