Immobilizing Sap | Immobilizing Sap

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NAME: Immobilizing Sap ELEMENT: Life COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Set the target creature's attack to 0.	NAME: Immobilizing Sap ELEMENT: Life COST: 1 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Set the target creature's attack to 0.

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[loadquo]

Idea: Basic creature control. With anti-antimatter uses, and also stopping your own utility creatures suiciding on shields. E.g. useful in rainbow druid decks. Costed at 2 as similar in power/utility to rewind time.

[russianspy1234]

i like it, maybe do set it to 1 for the unupped and 0 for the upped though?  makes you pay extra for the added utility of protecting your creatures from fireshield.

[loadquo]

i like it, maybe do set it to 1 for the unupped and 0 for the upped though?  makes you pay extra for the added utility of protecting your creatures from fireshield.

Do you mean increase the cost? Possibly. It is less useful than a rewind time in that you don't get to replay the high attack creature that was antimattered (or help prevent you from decking out). So I'm not sure if it is worth more than one in general.

Also I've noted that it increases the healing rate of the flying adrenalised druidic staff (to 25 from 20). Gets rid of all of the the damage though and is a pain to set up, so probably not very important. Can anyone think of any other weird interactions with adrenaline that I am not thinking of?

[russianspy1234]

i like it, maybe do set it to 1 for the unupped and 0 for the upped though?  makes you pay extra for the added utility of protecting your creatures from fireshield.

Do you mean increase the cost? Possibly. It is less useful than a rewind time in that you don't get to replay the high attack creature that was antimattered (or help prevent you from decking out). So I'm not sure if it is worth more than one in general.

Also I've noted that it increases the healing rate of the flying adrenalised druidic staff (to 25 from 20). Gets rid of all of the the damage though and is a pain to set up, so probably not very important. Can anyone think of any other weird interactions with adrenaline that I am not thinking of?

i mean leave the quanta cost as they are, but have the unupped one set the attack to 1 instead of 0.

[loadquo]

i mean leave the quanta cost as they are, but have the unupped one set the attack to 1 instead of 0.

I like that from a differentiation point of view. It would be odd for sap to increase the attack of 0 attack monsters though. It would also allow you to make Chrysaora attack your thorn carapace, which has utility in itself.

I'll see what other people think before making any changes.

[TheManuz]

Why don't you add a little side effect? Something simple, like

Gain life equal to target creature attack, then set it to 0.

So the cost of the card is more balanced (i think).
This will cause the owner of an antimattered creature to take damage, though. But i think versatility is a good thing!
Nice card, anyway, i like it! 

[russianspy1234]

i mean leave the quanta cost as they are, but have the unupped one set the attack to 1 instead of 0.

I like that from a differentiation point of view. It would be odd for sap to increase the attack of 0 attack monsters though. It would also allow you to make Chrysaora attack your thorn carapace, which has utility in itself.

I'll see what other people think before making any changes.

hmm i didntt think of 0 attack creatures... "target creatures attack becomes 1 if it is more than 1 or less than 0?"

[loadquo]

Why don't you add a little side effect? Something simple, like

Gain life equal to target creature attack, then set it to 0.

So the cost of the card is more balanced (i think).
This will cause the owner of an antimattered creature to take damage, though. But i think versatility is a good thing!
Nice card, anyway, i like it! 

Thanks!

Hmm, that would seem more like a death/darkness effect to me (draining strength to give to its owner). And wouldn't be sap. Might make a nice different card? Do other people think the cost is too low?

i mean leave the quanta cost as they are, but have the unupped one set the attack to 1 instead of 0.

I like that from a differentiation point of view. It would be odd for sap to increase the attack of 0 attack monsters though. It would also allow you to make Chrysaora attack your thorn carapace, which has utility in itself.

I'll see what other people think before making any changes.

hmm i didntt think of 0 attack creatures... "target creatures attack becomes 1 if it is more than 1 or less than 0?"

That would make the card text a bit more complex than I would like. Possibly "Target creatures attack becomes 1 if it is not 0".

[Rutarete]

Great against Antimatter and Devastating to Overdrive. I like it.

[bogtro]

I don't really like it - seems pretty OP. 2 quanta to turn a dragon into a dead card? Meh. Maybe "Gain -(X)|+1" a turn - fits the theme of sap (slows down but hardens), while not instantly shutting down creatures. X is up to you - maybe 2/3 upped to be the opposite of acceleration/overdrive.

[redium]

I have to agree with bogtro that it is a bit OP, I also like his idea of a slow process rather than instant  0 attack.  Still, a viable and strong idea.